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None of our teachers get pulled to sub. EA's would, and typically not the Sped ones unless they want to share comp time. Office staff and Prince would take the class before that happened.


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MissMaam 03-31-2018 01:23 PM

Where I am, it has become quite common for any staff to be pulled to sub. I've had friends tell me that they have even had to give up their plan time to sub! I think it just depends on where you are, and the grade levels seem to matter as well. Middle school has the toughest time getting subs in my experience. I completely understand how you feel. I have the same feelings about doing duty. Ew! Lol! Good luck to you.

Tounces 03-01-2018 03:05 PM

No, but I get pulled for everything else. I even had to cover a paraís lunch today during my lunch. I didnít even get asked, just told. No extra money either.

ElemSped13 02-04-2018 10:08 PM

At least 2x a month. Sometimes I get pulled from my regular class/es to cover and sometimes itís to cover during 1/2 of my plan.

I donít mind helping but honestly it has gotten to be way too much, especially when there are SATs and IEP meetings often. The gen ed teachers can choose which of those meetings to attend but sped has to be there.

teabreak 02-02-2018 05:31 AM

I only get pulled if it's during my planning time and my IEPs and IEP time are caught up. I'm in a high school setting so I have a set planning time each day. They will ask me if I can sub and if I can, I will. If I can't, I won't. The nice thing is that we get compensated for giving up our planning and I do like that. This year I haven't been able to cover classes as much as I would like.

catandturtle 02-02-2018 04:27 AM

I was a resource teacher last year and heard of this happening but we had new admin who I think didnít realize they could do this (legally they couldnít, but that wouldnít have stopped them). Honestly they forgot about our existence. Now I am self contained and that would never happen. I would refuse if anyone asked me.

nyteacher29 02-01-2018 10:16 AM

Yes, they are called "coverages" and we get paid for them. You sign up for them. A lot of teachers sign up for them, because it is extra money. I usually do at least 2 coverages a week

amherstteach 02-01-2018 04:28 AM

We only get pulled to sub during our planning time and even then it's our choice if we want to take the job and we get paid very well (like $35 an hour well).

However, if there are a lot of teachers out in the building our subs are the first to get pulled to teach a general education, state-tested class. They usually just ship our kids to study hall if they are in an intervention period and our co-taught classes just aren't covered.

Haley23 01-31-2018 11:51 AM

This is the first principal I've worked for that has at all cared about the IEP minutes being met. In a previous district, they had us purposely put less minutes on the IEP than the child was scheduled for. Here, they won't let us do that because they say "over serving" is just as bad as "under serving."

However, in previous years the minutes were almost never met. I feel like they took advantage of the fact that our families are low SES and didn't know to complain. I was pulled for behavior (at least half of the time for kids that didn't even have IEPs) very frequently as well as meetings mid-day and things like DIBELS benchmarking. I told the other school team they should bring up the IEP minutes and they burst out laughing, so I'd guess they've had a similar experience.

Thankfully, with the new P I never get pulled for behavior or pulled into random meetings, and all benchmarking is now done by classroom teachers (they get a half day sub for it). I do still miss some for meetings...they put in for a sub on MTSS days (once per month), but we have shortage so it's not always filled. I also have to go to data teams every 6 weeks and they don't put a sub in for that.

readandweep 01-30-2018 05:24 PM

When I taught resource that used to happen, but like PP about five-six other people (including reading teachers, lit coach and social worker) would have to be pulled before that happened.

Apparently before I got there the principal used to pull special ed teachers first. The other resource teachers finally got him to see the legality of losing the minutes.

Even without subbing for teachers we were often pulled to do PBIS reward parties, take student of the month to the local diner for the reward and do things like DIBELs benchmarking.

Also, i had a large case load and would have to simply cancel my group when I had IEP meeting, RTI meetings and trainings.

I am not a resource teacher now, but our resource teachers (all push in) are supposedly pulled for testing, behavior and meetings.

I maybe see one of my co-teachers once every other week.

Sprite 01-30-2018 05:23 PM

No, I don't. If I did no one would be there to teach my class. However, I do sub VERY often .. like 2-3 times per week for others during my prep, lunch, plc's (if I can skip them) etc. etc.

It's good money but I am getting worn out by it. We are in desperate need of subs in my district.. and I don't really know why.

Haley23 01-30-2018 04:28 PM

I am impacted because most of the time if I am gone my sub ends up getting pulled to cover a classroom job
The same thing happens to me. It's very frustrating to spend time putting together plans that go unused. 90% of the time, I only actually keep the sub if no one else is out that day.

Last year, my teammate got so frustrated that she just didn't bother to make sub plans one day towards the end of the year. Of course, that was the one day a sub actually showed up and was assigned to her position! That definitely didn't go over well.
kahluablast 01-30-2018 07:00 AM

None of our teachers get pulled to sub. EA's would, and typically not the Sped ones unless they want to share comp time. Office staff and Prince would take the class before that happened.


WGReading 01-30-2018 06:56 AM

(Elementary school in a district with a sub shortage)

In our building, our non-academic specialists and counselor are on a rotation for filling classroom sub jobs that are unfilled. SPED and reading/math interventionists are not on the rotation.

I'm actually the reading specialist at my school, not a SPED teacher. Even though I would only be asked to cover a classroom in an emergency (we'd need to have 6 unfilled classroom jobs before I would get pulled), I am impacted because most of the time if I am gone my sub ends up getting pulled to cover a classroom job. I serve on district committees so end up being gone a few days a month and I think I've had a sub once or twice this year, the rest of the times my sub has been pulled. It stinks because I spend time writing the plans and then they aren't used, and I have a few very capable subs who love working with my groups who take my jobs way ahead of time and then they end up getting thrown into a random classroom.

Haley23 01-29-2018 07:52 PM

My sped team had a meeting with one of the sped teams from another school in the district today. One of the teachers was upset because she was told she'd be subbing in 2nd grade for the rest of the day when they returned from the meeting. We were really surprised because that would NEVER happen in our building. They said they have to do it all of the time- even people that aren't even teachers like the SLP or school psych!

My current principal is very serious about the IEP minutes being met. I appreciate that because in the past I feel like it was just me who was really concerned about that. I'd be pulled for meetings mid-day, dealing with behavior, etc. but even my previous admin never pulled me to sub. Our intervention teachers used to get pulled all of the time and my new principal put a stop to that also.

I'm strongly considering looking for a new position next year, but this is the kind of stuff that makes me hesitate. I'm just wondering how common it is? I literally moved across the country alone after college to avoid having to sub (job market was so bad in my hometown that it was pretty much expected you "put in your time" as a sub for several years prior to landing a position).

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