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If you don't have a contract, then I think you can feel free to leave when you are ready. I would write a letter to give to Human Resources and send a copy to the principal.

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Problem 09-02-2017 11:53 PM

I was in a situation similar to yours, but it was at a charter school. I was worried about my credential being suspended. I emailed my boss and principal several times, but they were not really listening to me and they would not fire me either. I emailed the superintendent. I told superintendent I spoke to boss and principal and my issues and problems were not resolved. The next day after emailing superintertendent I was tired.
In my emails to my boss and principal I told them I was not trained to do some of the work they have, I could not learn some complex computer system they wanted me to (in a matter of a couple weeks), and I was not going to get some work done before Christmas, etc. Basically I could not do the job and I was not going to get the work completed (and done correctly) when they wanted me to.
I was on an at will contract for charter school

Star-Gazer 09-01-2017 04:03 PM

I would volunteer, but that is not my area of strength. I am hoping that you get the new job. Good luck.

nstafins 09-01-2017 04:36 AM

A 5th grade ELA position just opened up in a district near me! Fingers crossed!

Would anyone be willing to take a look at my cover letter? It seems a little wordy to me and I just want to make sure I'm showcasing my best self!

Star-Gazer 08-30-2017 12:13 PM

Contact your state board of education to see if the school can do anything to you since you are in a non teaching, non contract position.

nstafins 08-30-2017 10:08 AM

Just an update:

I talked to a teacher friend who said she would be worried about the school holding my certificate and taking it to the board of education to be suspended if I resign early. I don't know whether or not this would be a problem since they didn't hire me into a teaching position.

She said that she would go directly to the superintendent and let him know it wasn't fully disclosed to me that this was more of an aide position so I am now searching for a classroom position.

nstafins 08-30-2017 04:24 AM

The duty assigned after school is apart of my contracted hours. I start about 45 minutes later than everyone else in the building. It didn't occur to me to ask why this was, as I saw all the other paraprofessionals/non-teachers in the building had various hours as well.

I sent an email to P yesterday, reminding him of my problems clocking in and asking how he wanted me to document the time I've worked and never got a response. Tried to clock in the morning, still not in the system! This should've been taken care of last week, when I first brought it up. Also got locked out of the library this morning and had to scramble around to find someone with keys to let me back in. I'm just so frustrated at this point. I'm ready to leave, but worried about getting paid for my hours and honestly a little worried about not having a job lined up. I suppose there is always subbing, but no health benefits with that. I applied for another open maternity leave position in another district yesterday, though, so hoping something comes through.

How many days notice should I give in my resignation letter? I know you typical give two weeks when leaving a job, but I don't know what would be standard for this type of job/situation.

broomrider 08-29-2017 08:01 PM

about leaving as soon as possible.

One thing I wondered about is the after school assignment. Is this duty assigned AFTER the end of your assigned hours? If you are working overtime, you need to be paid for that time beyond your designated hours.

Our aides and assistants work different numbers of hours per day (all of the hours are less than full time so they won't get benefits). Be sure you are aware of the hour limits on your position. If you are not properly paid you have recourse first to the district payroll office, then the state labor office (whatever its title) if they do not respond appropriately.

jov 08-29-2017 06:46 PM

Please don't feel guilty about resigning. They were not honest with you about what the job entailed and they are definitely taking advantage of you, with both the lousy $$ and the job duties. Good luck in your job search. There are still jobs out there. A friend was just hired for a long term sub job starting in October for a teacher going out on maternity. If she proves herself, she will probably get a full time position next year. Keep looking!

teenytiny 08-29-2017 04:26 PM

Normally I would tell anyone to stick out their teaching position if at all possible. In your case, I say get out now!

The conditions and expectations of your job are absolutely crazy! No way. No WAY.

teacherwriter 08-29-2017 01:13 PM

...wanted to say how sorry I am about your situation. That's awful, and no, you're not overreacting. As a piggyback, thanks to other posters for the tips on how to resign, as I may be doing that myself at some point this year if I can land another job. I appreciate your sharing your insights.

TAOEP 08-29-2017 12:18 PM

If there is a building secretary, principal's secretary, or something similar in your building, that person may well be the person who can help make sure that your hours are being recorded properly so you'll be paid.

Your job sounds like a classic bait and switch. I totally understand your decision to resign. I would suggest that you give them at least a few days notice and handle the resignation without making allegations against the school. You just never know who you might run into in another district or another school and you want your reputation to remain positive.

Here's hoping that you will soon find a teaching position that is the right place for you.

nstafins 08-29-2017 10:00 AM

Thank you, C6g!
That was another concern I had, but that sounds like exactly the right response if asked about why I left the position so quickly. I'll keep everyone updated! I emailed P to remind him about my problems with clocking in and making sure he inputs my hours, but haven't gotten a response back.

Hawkeyegirl1 08-29-2017 09:50 AM

You are not overreacting. Please keep us posted.

c6g 08-29-2017 09:22 AM

It does sound like they're really taking advantage of you. I've seen schools that don't have certified teachers in their libraries, but the people that run these libraries have few or no extra duties.

I agree with jazzer and GreyhoundGirl, and would definitely follow their advice about how to resign. It's possible, but doubtful, that administration really cares about your concerns. I've been in situations like that. If they insist that 2 + 2 = 5, they don't want to be told the correct answer is 4.

If you don't get a paycheck, quietly talk to the school secretary and/or the payroll office. That will probably take care of it. If it doesn't, contact your state legislator. There's probably an office or department in your state that handles these matters.

If you're questioned in a future job interview about your quick departure, you could say you were really a parapro working for much less than teacher pay. Play down the part about your work in the library, and emphasize the cafeteria, recess, and after school duties. Although the parapro work was nice, you'd really like to be working as a teacher.

nstafins 08-29-2017 07:51 AM

It's not a contract position, so at least there isn't that to worry about. I consider myself a reasonable person, but was worried maybe I was overreacting. So it's reassuring to see that I'm not the only one that thinks an entire year's worth of a 2 1/2 hour long cafeteria duty is inexcusable. Amongst other things.

I guess my only concern is getting paid since i haven't been able to clock in the entire two weeks I've been here. I probably would have already written my letter if it wasn't for this.

Thanks so much for the advice everyone. I'm going to work on crafting my letter this evening and turn it in as soon as possible to HR and P. I feel a little guilty about accepting the position and leaving so quickly, but I don't think sticking it out is worth the price of my happiness.

GreyhoundGirl 08-29-2017 07:43 AM

4 librarians in 5 years tells me the P isn't going to much care why you're leaving or he'd be making an effort to get some of that fixed for you.

I'd write a short, 1-2 sentence letter simply stating you're resigning and when it will be effective. I'd send a copy to HR and one to the P. I'd do it today. It's clear you're miserable. I'm sorry. 2 1/2 hours of cafeteria duty is inexcusable.

whipsnake 08-29-2017 07:22 AM

Now would be the time. Not later, when you are more miserable and jaded.

I would suggest articulating all of your concerns and grievances as you've done here. You can confront your P with this, with letter of resignation in hand, and give to person after; or you can simply hand to the person and if he asks you why, then you can explain what you've done here. See if anything improves if the P is apologetic, or cut your losses and find a much better position.

jazzer 08-29-2017 07:15 AM

If you don't have a contract, then I think you can feel free to leave when you are ready. I would write a letter to give to Human Resources and send a copy to the principal.

nstafins 08-29-2017 06:51 AM

I made another post detailing my current situation, but I've made the decision to resign and have no idea how to do it, who to contact, etc. I have put my resume out again and am hoping something else comes through. In the meantime, though, I am ready to call it quits. I have never resigned from a position so quickly or in the middle of the year and am honestly a little terrified. I'm not good with confrontation and I know the district will not be happy. How do I handle this? Do I tell the P in person, do I craft a letter to send to the personnel administrator? I am not in a contracted position either.

For those who want more background on the situation, this is essentially what I posted in my previous thread:

I'm a certified teacher and was laid-off at the end of last year. Unfortunately there weren't many teaching jobs posted where I live so I ended up taking a media specialist position within an urban district. They were clear that I would not be paid as a contract teacher and I believe hired me on the same pay grade as a media clerk, but would bump me to a classroom teaching position should one open up next year. I was content with this, but I didn't realize the woes that came with this position.

Apparently they have gone through five librarians in four years. No one stays because they are treated poorly. I only know this because I walked to the primary building next door to see if the librarian there could give me a run down on what I needed to do in the library and she asked if she could be frank with me about the truth of my position.

All staff is required to fulfill duties, which I understand but I was put on three cafeteria/recess duties in a row for the entire year. So that's two and a half hours of my day spent clearing trash from tables (kids aren't allowed to get up) and supervising playground behavior. I also am in charge of what P calls a 'siblings babysitting program' for an hour after school. I was not told about this and only knew when about 35 kids showed up in the library at 3:00 to wait for their siblings to be released from the primary school next door.

P expects me to teach language arts skills, keyboarding, and research skills within a 35 minutes time period. But yet I'm not being paid anywhere near a teacher's salary. I have no scanner to scan books out and was told I can do it by hand like the last librarian did. I am locked out of the library software system and none of the techs know how to fix it so for the past two days, I haven't been able to do anything on my to-do list. I can't even punch-in to the time clock each day because I haven't been put into the system- despite me asking daily when I will be able to clock in. So now I'm worried about my paycheck. I don't have keys for the library and get locked out constantly. It's just a mess and I feel I am being taken advantage of and am very unhappy with the conditions of the job and feel some information was kept from me.




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