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There are differences in fifth as compared with middle school.

Some thoughts off the top of my head:

1. They may slump in their seats and act sluggish, but get them up, around, and moving, often.
2. The hormonal issues that used to be part of older grades are happening in fifth. This includes the boys; they can be sensitive at times.
3. They want to be big kids. If they are the oldest grade in the school, build a culture that they are responsible for the littles to try to counteract the cock of the walk attitude. If you can, partner with a class of littles, K-2, for occasional together activities. I've taught only 5 or 6 for 20+ years in the elementary setting and have had little buddies most years. We do things like getting together for the big buddies to help with tech, or listen to the little buddies read. If they're kindies, we have read to them.
4. Talk a lot about what they can do-focus on capability. I also teach brain plasticity in science. Be firm about their responsibilities. That being said, they are still dealing with so much that is out of their control. Only make them accountable for what they can control. (With the hormones, they'll feel out of control enough.)
5. Focus on routines at the beginning of the year is imperative.

Finally, this school year, I started using Eduprotocols. My students loved the ones I used. I plan to add more to my routines next year. You can check them out at their web site: https://www.eduprotocols.com/
I went to a one-day seminar, which included the first book, and I ended up purchasing the second with my own money.

Best of luck next year!

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Singvogel 05-31-2020 06:52 AM

There are differences in fifth as compared with middle school.

Some thoughts off the top of my head:

1. They may slump in their seats and act sluggish, but get them up, around, and moving, often.
2. The hormonal issues that used to be part of older grades are happening in fifth. This includes the boys; they can be sensitive at times.
3. They want to be big kids. If they are the oldest grade in the school, build a culture that they are responsible for the littles to try to counteract the cock of the walk attitude. If you can, partner with a class of littles, K-2, for occasional together activities. I've taught only 5 or 6 for 20+ years in the elementary setting and have had little buddies most years. We do things like getting together for the big buddies to help with tech, or listen to the little buddies read. If they're kindies, we have read to them.
4. Talk a lot about what they can do-focus on capability. I also teach brain plasticity in science. Be firm about their responsibilities. That being said, they are still dealing with so much that is out of their control. Only make them accountable for what they can control. (With the hormones, they'll feel out of control enough.)
5. Focus on routines at the beginning of the year is imperative.

Finally, this school year, I started using Eduprotocols. My students loved the ones I used. I plan to add more to my routines next year. You can check them out at their web site: https://www.eduprotocols.com/
I went to a one-day seminar, which included the first book, and I ended up purchasing the second with my own money.

Best of luck next year!

mrteacherguy 05-06-2020 03:58 AM

Hey all!


This coming school year, 2020-2021, I will be moving from teaching middle school to teaching fifth grade.


For the last seven years I've been teaching 6th, 7th, or 8th grade, either math or science in schools with poverty levels between 97% and 75%. This coming school year I will be teaching fifth grade, all content areas, in a school with a poverty level around 52%. So there's a lot of changes in both content and student population.


I'm both excited and nervous about this change, as I haven't worked with fifth grade since my student teaching in 2007. I'm looking for any suggestions, resources, advice, etc that people can offer so that I can be better prepared come August.




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