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Yes, we negotiated the pay for splitting up classes when there is not a sub. I'm pretty sure we get the sub pay. So if we split a class into 2, we would get half day sub pay. This is as a teacher, not sure if the same for a sub. I've never known us to split a class with a sub though. That seems wrong.

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MissESL 12-02-2018 06:56 AM

No. As a classroom teacher, itís covering another teacher in need. If the sub doesnít show, if they canít find a sub, or with our recent blizzard, if a teacher canít get to school because their rural road still hasnít been cleared...
We do split kids up and put them in other rooms for the day. Generally, over the grade level so that each teacher only has 2-4 extra kids. But no, there is not extra pay for this.
Now, if you cover a class period at the upper levels at the expense of your planning, you get $15/hour. But that rarely happens.

SubMan 12-02-2018 05:35 AM

When I was a contracted teacher I worked in two districts one paid the teachers for class splits as they were called and the other did not. In the first we were paid a portion of the sub pay based on the percentage of extra students we had (3 way split equaled 33%). The other district expected us to deal with it.

As a sub I get no extra pay for extra students or coverage during “planning time.” Recently I had to teach three classes at the same time with no extra pay. Students came to the auditorium and sat in the left, right, or center sections depending on which teacher they had. Thankfully the school provided me with a projector and wireless mic. On this day the school needed 7 subs; they had one, me. Other teachers had to double up so I really can’t complain but it would have been nice to get some extra money.

dietcoke99 12-01-2018 08:06 PM

I think this may be an elementary thing because I've never heard of it in the h.s. I know when I was teaching there were an incredibly small number of times that I had to cover a class during my prep because they didn't have a sub.

We did not get any extra pay for this - it was in the contract.

I know when I got in a pretty bad accident (my car was totaled, but I wasn't hurt or anything), I called the school and told them what happened and that I would be there as soon as I could, but I didn't know how long it would be.

When I got there and entered my room I was just very relieved that the students were there in some kind of normalcy (but not doing anything productive) and the poor teacher was sitting there, and I could tell he was just babysitting (but I was just happy that he had held down the fort while I was gone) I told him "I was just in an accident."

But he didn't get any extra pay and he, honestly, didn't look very happy about having to, without any prior notice, cover my class, but he did.


I agree with Mainsub,

Another time they called me in for a sp. ed. class for the 1st 1/2 of the day (as I had a different class for the pm shift). When I got there I really didn't do ANYTHING b/c another teacher was there and I was sort-of just there for what reason, I had no idea. I was afraid b/c I didn't know what their IEP's said, or whatever, and I didn't really know what to do). He said it was o.k. and that I could do whatever I wanted to do. I tried to walk around and be helpful, but I really wasn't.

When I left for the day I realized that the 1st half wasn't reported - I just let it go b/c I didn't do anything, anyway.

I know in the h.s. we have a great variation in the number of s's/class, but I've never thought of my being based on that.

I think working during preps is based on the district. None of the districts I work in now make me work during a prep, but in the past I've had to do that every time. I think it depends on how cheap the district is.

mkesub 12-01-2018 12:46 PM

I've never gotten paid extra for extra students, or for covering a class during my prep, as a sub or when I was a regular teacher.

As a sub I don't worry about covering classes during my prep. We don't actually need prep time, though it is nice.

As far as extra kids, it has happened to me rarely, and it more than balances out with all the times I've had less than the usual number of kids. For example, I often cover for a teacher who is on a field trip, and I only teach the kids who stay back. Sometimes I have had ridiculously low numbers of kids in my classes.

luvmycat 12-01-2018 11:42 AM

Yes, we negotiated the pay for splitting up classes when there is not a sub. I'm pretty sure we get the sub pay. So if we split a class into 2, we would get half day sub pay. This is as a teacher, not sure if the same for a sub. I've never known us to split a class with a sub though. That seems wrong.

OneGreatSub 12-01-2018 09:32 AM

to handle another class? i want to work in your district!

Tapdancesub 12-01-2018 08:52 AM

I have been at this school for the past 3 days and have been told by 2 regular teachers that they do in fact receive a stipend for taking on extra students. Must be something the union negotiated because most classes are already at capacity. Iíve taken extra students many times before as a sub and never gave it a thought. We also have an acute shortage of subs in my area.

MaineSub 12-01-2018 03:39 AM

So if 25% of my class is absent, I make 25% less?

I'm not paid based on headcount and seriously doubt that any regular teachers are.

Ima Teacher 11-30-2018 05:16 PM

Nope. Not as a teacher, and not as a sub.

luv2teach2017 11-30-2018 10:50 AM

No way! I often get loaded with another teacher's problem kids who've been sent to my class for a "time out." Extra pay? Not. There's also rarely any "prep" time, let alone extra pay for not having it. I sub in elementary schools, and what with recess duty and cafeteria duty, on top of teaching class, I'm lucky if I get any break other than a brief lunch. No extra pay here. (P.S. but then the CA Bay Area is in a universe of their own .)

BayAreaSub 11-29-2018 09:22 PM

but I have been given extra pay, as teachers do, when I lose a prep to cover a class with no teacher.

Tapdancesub 11-29-2018 08:36 PM

😀 Iíve had this happen before and never gave it a thought! I was just surprised to learn that teachers in this district get paid extra when they take extra students. I guess you work for a district for 10 years and learn something new every day.

mooba1 11-29-2018 07:51 PM

Extra pay for extra students? Bwah-ha-ha!! Didnít get it when I was teaching full time and we had to split classes, and donít get it now as a sub when classes have to be split.

Itís just the way it is. Sometimes these things happen, and we just roll with it. Gee, I donít think Iíve ever heard of getting paid extra for taking part of a split class. Maybe Iíve been working for the wrong districts all these years.

Tapdancesub 11-29-2018 06:07 PM

Today a sub did not show up and the students in the class were divided into 3 groups. One of which was the class I was covering today. One of the teachers asked if I got extra pay because of the extra students. I told her no, apparently regular teachers do. Do any of you receive extra pay if you take on extra students?

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