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I hate melonhead children, ink-chewing chevron, and typos. 'Nuff said.

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Jasper904 08-15-2016 03:49 PM

My only gripe with TPT is that it really limits teacher originality if overdone. For example, I hate going into a classroom that literally looks like a TPT advertisement because there are no examples of anchor charts that were made with the children. Instead there are exaggerated cartoon-faces, chevron, anchors, and owls all over the room. It's over-stimulating. The fonts are very hard for young children to read.

Now, I have found some great resources that have been absolute time-savers and I am thankful for that. I am just not a fan of the contemporary classrooms that have more fluff than academic "stuff". I also like for children to see real representations of the world instead of caricatures that they cant identify with.

With that being said, I would never tell someone they shouldn't be paid for their hard work. Ultimately, it's still a buyers market so it's up to a teacher's personal preference.
I have noticed a lot of plagiarism on TPT so to me I'm not sure I would even want to sell my items if someone was essentially going to turn around and steal from me.

Hawkeyegirl1 08-15-2016 10:37 AM

I love TpT...lots of great resources to supplement my teaching! I love being able to purchase those items that I like, rather than having to buy a whole book for just a couple of good ideas (kind of like recipes/cookbooks!).

As far as paying...I appreciate the time and work someone put into making something. Why shouldn't they get paid for that? Teachers are professionals --they shouldn't be expected to give everything away for free out of the goodness of their own hearts. I totally agree with sharing with teammates, other teachers in the building, etc. But, if someone took the time to create and make it --then you bet, pay them for it.

GdHrtdTchr 08-15-2016 10:30 AM

I do agree with the core value of teachers sharing with each other (for free). HOWEVER, I also respect the idea of teachers who choose to sell on TPT. Some of them have done their 'regular' jobs and spent hours and hours creating stuff. I don't resent them trying to supplement their probably-too-low teacher salary with additional income for extra work. And for me, personally, having next to NO PREPS last year (along with inadequate resources and too many students and special needs & at-risk students), being able to buy resources to supplement, organize, reinforce, etc. on TPT was a HUGE help. I only buy what I like. I have bought some things that weren't worth what I spent, but that happens in 'real life' as well. I have never sold anything on TPT because I'm already so overwhelmed that I have made some good stuff, but it's not colorful or cutesy. It falls in the category we began with -- offer it to my coworkers.

GlacierRose 08-15-2016 08:13 AM

Good Lord, is that how you took that?! I was trying to raise the point so others would stop being shocked and outraged at how things are done where you teach. People assume too often that we all have the same experiences or should have the same experiences, which is not the case at all. I was trying to help others understand, not make you feel unappreciated.

I'm so sorry.

Zia 08-15-2016 05:15 AM

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Doesn't mean my experiences aren't valid, though.
I enjoy hearing all the different perspectives and experiences!
Tiamat 08-15-2016 03:03 AM

Yes, I am in Australia.

And, yes, some things are done very differently.

Doesn't mean my experiences aren't valid, though.

Zia 08-14-2016 05:57 PM

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I don't know of any seller who actually sells to people in their school or even district, so the personal collaboration is still there at the school and district level. I don't think sellers are asking colleagues to pay for a worksheet (and if they did, I wouldn't buy from that seller).
Your post made me realize something. A teacher at my school is a TpT seller and she always puts links on FB and tags all her teacher friends. It's free to us. All she asks is we leave positive and detailed feedback.
GlacierRose 08-14-2016 05:32 PM

Tiamat, aren't you in Australia? I've noticed in a couple of threads recently that people are questioning things you have posted, but if you're in a different country, of course things may be done very differently.

SignedOut 08-14-2016 05:13 PM

There are lots of things to think about in this thread! I'm responding as a teacher, customer, and a seller, so hopefully it's not too long

As a teacher, I think to each his/her own. I completely understand that some teachers don't want to use TpT at all, some only download a few free things, and others like to purchase paid products. We're all coming from different backgrounds, with different experiences, have different levels of support, and different needs. I know many teachers, including myself, have absolutely NO resources in our schools. My district hasn't adopted a textbook in the 14 years I've been teaching. I think we have enough criticism from the outside that there's no need to tear each other down, especially over whether or not a fellow teacher chooses to purchase something on TpT.

As a customer, I definitely agree that there is a lot of subpar materials out there. That's why I've found a handful of sellers I trust and stick with them. I also think that it will always be my responsibility to determine whether the resource adequately address a standard at my grade level. It doesn't matter if I'm looking through a Mailbox magazine, searching online, or using a publishing company's resource book, I have to decide if it's a good fit for my classroom. If I need more than the preview shows, I just ask the seller for more information. My state has published curriculum guides that were horrible and didn't even come close to teaching the standards, so it's definitely not just a problem on TpT. I prefer to give my money to teachers, rather than large publishing companies. I also like that I don't have to spend $20 on a resource book, where I'll only use one or two activities.

As a seller, I've been able to share free resources in a way that would have never been possible without TpT. I have many free items in my store and countless free items on my blog. I've invested hours of time into these free items, and I'm happy to help out other teachers! I often wonder how the neigh sayers share all of their free resources and what resources they're offering to the online community. I don't know of any seller who actually sells to people in their school or even district, so the personal collaboration is still there at the school and district level. I don't think sellers are asking colleagues to pay for a worksheet (and if they did, I wouldn't buy from that seller). If you browse around, you'll find that the quality materials are so much more than a simple worksheet. In fact, the best resources I've ever seen were on TpT.

Tiamat 08-14-2016 02:06 PM

It's in the Code of Conduct we are all drilled in on the first day of school every year. Judging by the emphasis put on it in presentation, they take it slightly more seriously than child molestation (which is barely touched upon, but also in the Code).

aggie'swife 08-14-2016 01:18 PM

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We have been firmly told we are not allowed to sell on TPT and will be prosecuted if we are caught. Anything we make or design in the course of our employment is copyrighted yo the Education Department. We don't own it, so we can't sell it.
Did they put it in writing? Anything you create on your own computer especially during the time when you are not working is your personal property. Don't use your real name and don't publicize it at your school.

I look for materials created by teachers in my state. Then I check the standards and see if it measures up. To be honest, there is much that publishing companies sell that are outright worthless or riddled with errors. Many items on Tpt can be edited or you can ask the seller to make a special one for you.
MissESL 08-14-2016 11:42 AM

We supplement with TPT frequently. More practice, fun games, extensions or revisits...I think TPT has so much to offer. You can often preview and decide if it's worth your money. You can find many good resources at no cost. It saves me time, and I'd much rather pay other teachers for their time than waste my own or give it to big name publishers.

But I think that's a key word: supplement. It is not the end all, be all!

AX Pendergast 08-14-2016 10:57 AM

Your administration sounds more like a totalitarian regime. They're regulating your creativity? What motivation do you then have to be creative? sounds like they'd rather have you stick to the dog and pony show than actually teach. so sorry.

teachsph2008 08-14-2016 09:15 AM

I agree with you about the resources not being vetted. I must admit I've been guilty to being drawn to something because it's advertised as being for my grade level or curriculum. As soon as I start clicking around and looking at the materials, I realize that it's not what it claims to be.

I appreciate the sellers who allow me to have a view before purchasing, even if it's a free item.

Savvy 08-14-2016 08:37 AM

I totally agree with your post and my concern is for newer teachers who dont realize that standards are not being hit.

Oncidium 08-14-2016 08:27 AM

I like TPT because I am (or will be) a new teacher, and it gives me a lot of ideas. But I also think the school curriculum should be used before TPT things. I have seen a lot of things in books for instance ready made graphic organizers that I frankly do not have time to make.

TaffyFL 08-14-2016 07:55 AM

My problem with TPT is that you don't know what you are paying for. It is not evaluated to be a true representation of the standards, like cpalms. We have one grade level who does nothing but TpT for math and the next grade finds them unprepared because the material does not teach the entire content of the standards.

It is great for a supplement, but teachers need to teach the standards, not just what they find that is cute, imo.

Savvy 08-14-2016 07:46 AM

Honestly, at the end of the day, everyone will do what is best for them. I'm not above using tpt occasionally. I was just annoyed.

teachsph2008 08-14-2016 07:32 AM

My classroom is not fancy. There are pops of color and I try to make things looks nice. I think I'm a decent teacher.

I don't assume that because some teachers like their rooms to be real cutesy that they aren't good teachers.

As far as TPT goes, I view it as any other website. It's a business. I pick and choose what I like. As some people have said, I'd rather the money go to other teachers.

I imagine their products look they way do because of marketing. Many sellers realize that printing in color is expensive so they offer the option of just printing in black and white.

Mshope 08-14-2016 07:11 AM

I was thinking of buying something on TPT for the first time. I've been trying to create this item on my own for years, and just can't get it together. I would rather pay a teacher than buy a whole book full of stuff in which I only want one thing. However, at the same time, I do feel like I would probably end up changing it so much to suit my needs. I've very rarely been able to use things online without making some changes.

The one thing that I can't wrap my head around is how some items seem to use so much ink. Ink is so pricy that I think it would be cheaper to buy a commercial poster than print some of these things out. Yes, they might look great, but some backgrounds are completely all black. Who can afford that much ink? Btw, we have no color printers at school, so I do all my printing at home.

I've never put anything on TPT, but I would love to. I really like the item. I think about the hours and hours I spend "recreating the wheel." Then, my curriculum changes or we drop the unit and it seems like all that work goes to waste. Why not help someone else? I really think we all probably do too much work, why not collaborate?

Zia 08-14-2016 06:11 AM

There's a lot of crap on TpT, but there is also some quality stuff. I'd rather my money go to a creative teacher than Carson-Dellosa. I think it's a cool way to bring in some extra cash as a second job, one which is totally in your skill set. It's a better use of/outlet for a teacher's expertise than waiting tables.

ICrazyTeach 08-14-2016 05:27 AM

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We have been firmly told we are not allowed to sell on TPT and will be prosecuted if we are caught. Anything we make or design in the course of our employment is copyrighted yo the Education Department. We don't own it, so we can't sell it.
I've heard some of this, too and it makes me so mad! I understand the concept--you're creating it as an employee to use as part of your job. BUT, in most cases the materials are being created during someone's personal time. And they should be able to do whatever they want to do with that time.

I don't really like all the cutesy that is on TPT, but I do download some of the free stuff instead of spending my time creating my own.
travelingafar 08-14-2016 04:48 AM

I have no idea what you were going to say in your thread. However, I can't imagine paying another teacher for anything. You can find all kinds of free items online. It is great when teachers share materials with others in their buildings too, especially if everyone at a grade level participates.

meandmyhouse 08-14-2016 04:41 AM

I do purchase some things on TPT. Our district bought HMH Journeys last year. They did not however purchase the focus wall and word wall. I purchased a teacher created one on TPT, it would be no different than going to the teacher supply store and buying pre made word cards. It saved me tons of time, as I did not have to make it myself or go anywhere to buy it. I can't drive, epilepsy, so I do a lot of shopping online. Our school also has one to one ipads, so to save space in my small room, I decided to use QR codes for a listening center, and purchased them on TPT, once again saving myself tons of time.
However, I have never purchased lessons on TPT.

Tiamat 08-14-2016 04:04 AM

We have been firmly told we are not allowed to sell on TPT and will be prosecuted if we are caught. Anything we make or design in the course of our employment is copyrighted yo the Education Department. We don't own it, so we can't sell it.

teacherwriter 08-14-2016 01:51 AM

I hate melonhead children, ink-chewing chevron, and typos. 'Nuff said.

Summerwillcom 08-14-2016 01:09 AM

but now I am curious.

Savvy 08-13-2016 09:22 PM

You all are funny! I was just venting about a teammate who does nothing other than copy, print and paste from tpt. I felt bad talking about her though. It's not my problem. Since we are on the topic of tpt, I feel like the art and creativity of teaching is dying because no one has a thought in their head. And everyone is teaching the same lessons because they all got it from tpt.

AX Pendergast 08-13-2016 08:18 PM

I agree with AprilDelight. There are so many free resources online right now that I can't see paying anyone for stuff like that. Many of you already contribute portions of your paycheck because your school or district won't properly fund your supply cabinets.

I understand that some of us (me included) can always use extra cash. Well..go out and get a second job instead of asking a colleague to pay you for a worksheet.

AprilDelight 08-13-2016 07:08 PM

I dislike the idea.
I don't want to pay for teachers helping teachers.
Good lord, our job is hard enough.
I like the idea of collaboration!
I have also found many things on TPT that should NOT have been on there, including some of my OWN lessons and such.
Teachers need to be helping each other. Most of us have support and sources when we create big lessons/units/bulletin board/et cetera.
To see them SOLD?
I'm sorry. It pisses me off.
JMO

StephR 08-13-2016 06:40 PM

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I'm TOTALLY curious now!!
Me too!!!
SassyTeach 08-13-2016 06:11 PM

I'm TOTALLY curious now!!

Sorry about your frustrations! Hopefully you feel better after getting it all out.

Savvy 08-13-2016 05:38 PM

My thoughts weren't nice. So I decided to delete, but the delete option is not always available which is annoying! Why is that editors?????? And yes, I hit Go Advanced. The option was not there.




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