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In my previous school, I had a smartboard with an integrated projector, a document camera that integrated with smart notebook, and a dedicated computer to project from.

My classroom is supposed to have a projector and a document camera that I can connect to my Mac. Well, my classroom flooded last year and my projector got destroyed. So now I have a hole in my ceiling where the projector used to be and I write everything on the board.

It has made me reevaluate how I teach, and modern teaching practices in general, and it is very nice. All I have to worry about now is that I can find whiteboard markers.

I do know, however, that my current long-term sub is not having a fun time teaching in the stone ages

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Teacher_twins 08-21-2019 02:14 PM

In my previous school, I had a smartboard with an integrated projector, a document camera that integrated with smart notebook, and a dedicated computer to project from.

My classroom is supposed to have a projector and a document camera that I can connect to my Mac. Well, my classroom flooded last year and my projector got destroyed. So now I have a hole in my ceiling where the projector used to be and I write everything on the board.

It has made me reevaluate how I teach, and modern teaching practices in general, and it is very nice. All I have to worry about now is that I can find whiteboard markers.

I do know, however, that my current long-term sub is not having a fun time teaching in the stone ages

Mshope 08-15-2019 06:06 AM

I was having flashbacks of making handouts by literally cutting and putting them together.

I hope your computer issues are fixed by now. I always have a backup plan because our Internet isn't very reliable. However, if we had no tech, I'd go back to our "old" and perfectly fine textbooks. I keep a set in my room though the big shots act like they are poison.

Nowadays, I do need technology because everything is on the computer. Personally, I am not crazy about using the overhead. I've used them but all that spraying them and smearing... forget it.

Lakeside 08-10-2019 04:26 AM

As a sub, I sometimes don't have access to the teacher's normal tech anyway, so yes, I could do it.

But I generally come in to rooms with work already set up - planning without tech nowadays would be hard - not being able to look things up, print out worksheets, etc.

GraceKrispy 08-09-2019 05:34 PM

Since my last teaching job had the overhead projector as the fanciest piece of equipment I owned, I think I'd be good!

NJ Teacher 08-08-2019 08:01 AM

Our math program is online, and so are our report cards. The district is also highly paperless, which means the communications you get from administration and parents, some of which are time sensitive, are online, as well.

My SmartBoard was once out of commission for 6 months because there was some problem where the project had to be shipped to California. The district did not have a spare.

I also am one of those older teacher who remembers ditto machines, overhead projectors, slide and movie projectors, etc. The district even removed the TVs and the VCR/DVD combos from the rooms a few years ago, even though many of us said that we wanted them to remain in case the technology went down and we could use a DVD for a lesson.

Technology is great, until it isn't.

anna 08-08-2019 07:42 AM

I started teaching with green chalkboards and dittos. I remember the excitement when schools got overhead projectors and whiteboards.



I have visited a few Waldorf Schools and they do not have technology at all. The teachers have black chalkboards and colored chalk. Lots of learning still goes on in those classrooms.

Tori58 08-08-2019 06:03 AM

I started teaching in the days of the typewriter, ditto machine, chalkboard, paper gradebook and no phone in the classroom. I was overjoyed if I could get access to an IBM selectric typewriter and an overhead projector.

I taught most of my career in a small rural district which had a lousy network, slow internet and low bandwidth. When I left that district (2 years ago), I was still using a chalkboard and staff liner at the elementary because it was easier than negotiating with the other specialists for the one LCD cart available for all of us to use and then, half the time, not being able to use it because the internet was down.

I admit that I love finally working in a school with reasonable access to technology and I would be very dismayed to start the school year with no technology. And yes, I probably would have to laugh (not in a mean way, though) at the young teachers who would be more dismayed than I would be and yes, I would definitely help them.

sbslab 08-08-2019 05:01 AM

As a veteran teacher I could do it, but I wouldn’t like it. I would miss my Science Question of the Day website and my document camera the most. I frequently show short clips of related content on my Apple TV, so that would be out, too.

For younger teachers, here’s a video of a ditto master in usage. You see it at about 1 minute. https://youtu.be/ccYLLzpeVnU My (Catholic) school still had one in the office along with a copier when I started. The sheets came in a purple ink, not black. If you didn’t connect the sheet carefully, it got wrinkled and ruined the copies. Sometimes you could smooth it out, sometimes you would have to redo your original. Some kids LOVED the smell of papers fresh off the copier. Today, my littles in the computer lab LOVE getting their work fresh off the printer as it’s still warm.

I kept one of our overhead projectors as I have a geography game I made that needs it. I use it about once a year. I’ve wondered recently if it is worth the storage space...now I know ...YES!

MrsFrazzled 08-07-2019 05:51 PM

Wow! Iíve never thought about how copies were made before actual copying machines. I have such a tremendous respect for you veterans.

I have no idea how the SPED teachers are handling this. I canít imagine. Even our lunch room workers have it bad because they canít use their computers either. Lunch purchases will have to be done by hand. Next Monday will be a very interesting day.

Sbkangas5 08-07-2019 05:43 PM

I could do it! In fact, I'd kind of like it. And I'm old, but not so old that I've taught completely without technology. But seriously, I'd miss my document camera but could live without it. I'd love to not have to use ipads and such. I wouldn't have to deal with a zillion ridiculous emails. I think it would be harder on parents (for communication purposes) than it would be on me. As long as I had some way to have music I'd be good! However, I can't imagine the registration and scheduling nightmares that would result from that, especially at the jr. high and high school levels. Yikes!

Ima Teacher 08-07-2019 05:36 PM

I started teaching with a black slate chalkboard. Moved up to an overhead projector a couple of years in. Iíve had a full smart classroom for about a dozen years.

KeyKid 08-07-2019 05:34 PM

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You had to crank the handle to feed the paper and then sometimes it would grab several sheets so you had 1 copy and a bunch of blanks underneath. And they were purple.
WAIT! Before you connected it to the machine and cranked (and it was wonderful when we got the automatic (no-crank) machine) you had to get a good stencil. You would type s o s l o w l y so that you wouldn't make a mistake and then still make a mistake. So you'd finally figure out to type the word correctly following the mistake and then turn the master inside out and use a razor blade to scrape off the ink where the mistake was.

We've come a long way, baby!
Haley23 08-07-2019 05:25 PM

My first thought was that I would like that, but upon further reflection I use tech more than I thought . Last year we moved into a new building and all rooms were given Apple TVs. With the projection feature somehow this morphed into an expectation that you have a slide show for each lesson. I teach 9 lessons a day- that's a ton of extra work! I'd secretly be thrilled if I were told we had no capacity to make/display these slide shows for a bit.

However, I would have a very hard time not being able to print/copy anything, and it's not even a possibility to do my IEP paperwork without a computer. I guess you probably don't know- but I wonder what in the heck your sped teachers are possibly doing. Probably just having to do it at home? Even if I were to do that, there is no way to run the meeting without some sort of tech available.

Emily26 08-07-2019 05:05 PM

I think I'd die without my printer, but the rest, meh. One year we had to evacuate our school-the electricity was out and we had to all bus over to a different school and hang out in their gym all day. We were given five minutes to grab everything we needed to teach for the day. I grabbed paper, pencils, crayons, markers, some snacks, and about 20 books. And that was really all we needed to get through a day off learning. We get used to all that other stuff, but we don't NEED it as much as we think we do.

VivianCP 08-07-2019 04:53 PM

Going old school ~ I could do that! (again )

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I started (and spent years) using ditto machines,
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Iíll admit that I have no idea what a ditto machine is.
Haha! I remember those. They were the machines on which we made copies. Before we got the nice big copiers we use now that spit out copies in seconds. You had to crank the handle to feed the paper and then sometimes it would grab several sheets so you had 1 copy and a bunch of blanks underneath. And they were purple. I probably should not admit this but I MIGHT still have some ditto-made purple copies in my files!
broomrider 08-07-2019 04:35 PM

do a search for "school ransomware attack" and see a long listing of school districts and colleges dealing with cyberattacks.

There was a New York Times article just a bit ago about the problem.

MrsFrazzled 08-07-2019 04:14 PM

Iíll admit that I have no idea what a ditto machine is.

Well for us at the high school, we didnít have much technology to begin with. We arenít 1:1. We donít have smart boards. The only projectors we have are ones that hang from the ceiling and connect to a laptop to project on the whiteboard. So it isnít that big of change.

I will sorely miss my document camera though because I used it almost everyday. Iím asking around and hopefully will find an old, working projector.

FancyFish 08-07-2019 03:59 PM

I would find it very challenging, as all my students are 1:1 chrome books and Iím expected to present everything through google classroom. I donít think I could find an overhead projector, or transparencies.

LaFish 08-07-2019 02:45 PM

At least you are not alone in this non-tech time! And yeah, jot that in your resume. Haha It will be interesting to see how the students respond without the use of computers and Smartboards. And what about parents?
I would be interested to hear how this all turns out.

KeyKid 08-07-2019 02:40 PM

I started (and spent years) using ditto machines, overhead projectors, and filmstrips. We even walked around a big table handwriting grades on HS report cards

Do you have document cameras that would feed to the projectors? That way you could have something on paper projected to the screen for students to see.

ETA: Now that I think about it, the document camera feeds to the computer which feeds to the projector. Nevermind... My district got rid of all the old overhead projectors years ago.

Summerwillcom 08-07-2019 02:29 PM

done. The overhead was like gold to me before Smartboards. That is a bummer you did not get 1 because they make it a lot easier than the whiteboard, but having it on your resume will be priceless!
Some of our subjects are already mapped out for daily use on the Smartboard.
We have had tech down for a day or 2 at different times and a young teacher once made the mistake of telling our P she could not teach math those days because of the Smartboard issues. Our P was not happy!

TchrFvr 08-07-2019 02:28 PM

I enthusiastically second the overhead projector. It's "old school" but incredibly effective. Try to find one with a roller attachment for the roller transparency - good luck, because they are rare, but they are easy to use and easy to clean. I used one all my years of teaching (and that's a LOT of years!) because no matter what, it worked. Even when the technology was down, which happens a lot. Plus, the TVs in our rooms were so small that the kids couldn't read it when I used my Apple TV for my iPad or computer (grrr!) but they could easily see the big overhead pull-down screen. Hint: Stock up on bulbs, because they burn out often. I paid for my own because I got so tired of begging the AV department for them (grrr again!)
Added bonus: You face the kids when you use the overhead (rather than when using a whiteboard or chalkboard where you have to face away from them to write) so you can see their faces and make instant decisions as to whether or not they "get it."

MrsFrazzled 08-07-2019 02:20 PM

I believe we can use the old times projectors. Itís just that we canít use any of the modern ones. (I donít know if they can be used w/o a computer or not, but we were told not to even try.)

My department had 2 old projectors that were in our science lab. One teacher got one and I thought I would get the other but another science teacher said she wanted to use it. So I was going to be nice and let her. Well she didnít get to it fast enough.

I saw with my own eyes out P and AP walk by room with it one day. The teacher that wanted it asked our P about it and he said he had no idea about it. Which upset her a lot and me because he lied about it. I think it went to someone who I guess was more ďimportantĒ and needed it more.

Iím just gonna wing it. Iím kind of interested to teach without technology. I might even add it to my resume.

Summerwillcom 08-07-2019 01:35 PM

Joking....kind of! We have some who would help and others who would laugh in a mean way.
When I 1st started, we had zero tech.
We had chalkboards. Be thankful for your white board.
I spent a lot of time trying to write neatly ( without my back turned on the class).
That was a skill that made you highly qualified a long time ago...

I am unsure why you can't have overhead projectors though as they have nothing to do with a computer! You can write a lot easier and more on an overhead. Plus, you face the class. My eyes probably were damaged from long term use though. I was thrilled when I got my 1st one.

Straight up, I'd go crazy trying to teach without tech now. I have become so dependent on the Smartboard and having computer labs.
You have my deepest sympathies. I hope it gets fixed as soon as possible.

noonespecial 08-07-2019 01:20 PM

As one of those older teachers-Yes, been there, done that.

However, once youíre used to using technology it is tricky to go back.

Iím sorry this happened. Not how you want to start out your year.

MrsFrazzled 08-07-2019 12:59 PM

How many of us on proteacher could teach with NO technology?

This is the situation my entire school system is in. We had a ďmalwareĒ attack two weeks ago and are still without any technology and may be for a long time. Each school only has 2 working computers and 1 phone line.

No computers, school or personal, can be used which means no projectors. We canít even use the printers in our rooms.

Iím not that upset about having to start class next week without technology but it has just shown me how reliant we are on technology. I use PowerPoints a lot usually for visuals and a few notes. I guess Iím just going to get used to writing everything out on my whiteboard. This is the start of my 5th year so Iíve always had technology to teach with.

Iím really envying the older teachers now as they have been there and done that.




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