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I can't answer the tech part because we don't use Google Classroom, but I don't think it's a privacy issue. If you were in person in school, the other kids would know who was in their class. I say this as a mother who had children in special ed classes and as a teacher. The only time I might see a problem with it would be if every student in the large class can click into the list of the students in the small special ed class. But if it's only the students in the special ed group that are listed and can see the listing then it doesn't seem like an issue to me.

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Haley23 09-19-2020 09:02 PM

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I can't answer the tech part because we don't use Google Classroom, but I don't think it's a privacy issue. If you were in person in school, the other kids would know who was in their class. I say this as a mother who had children in special ed classes and as a teacher. The only time I might see a problem with it would be if every student in the large class can click into the list of the students in the small special ed class. But if it's only the students in the special ed group that are listed and can see the listing then it doesn't seem like an issue to me.
I teach mild/moderate, so it's different small groups all day and multiple grade levels. So kids/parents could see the full list of students I see, even those in different grade levels or those in a different pull out group than they are in. I have 9 groups, so even making each group their own would be way more work for me.

In the end this may work out in our favor, because without having our own I think there will be less pressure to post a bunch of stuff in GC. I was feeling like I had to use it for every lesson, even though we are in person, and now I feel like I can use the excuse that I don't want to clutter it up, especially if there is no reason to post it in there other than to say I did. We are also doing all services synchronously if we do go remote, so I don't see how I'd really even need it then either. If I want kids to see something, read something, etc. I'd just share my screen or post a link in the chat, not waste time telling them to go get it from GC. We made schedules that we're posting at the top of GC (shared only to that student) so they have all of their zoom links in the event we go remote.
Youthcantknow 09-17-2020 02:09 PM

I can't answer the tech part because we don't use Google Classroom, but I don't think it's a privacy issue. If you were in person in school, the other kids would know who was in their class. I say this as a mother who had children in special ed classes and as a teacher. The only time I might see a problem with it would be if every student in the large class can click into the list of the students in the small special ed class. But if it's only the students in the special ed group that are listed and can see the listing then it doesn't seem like an issue to me.

GraceKrispy 09-17-2020 01:43 PM

It does sound like a privacy issue to me (if I'm understanding this correctly). If the people tab could be made invisible/inaccessible, that would be much better.

But it sounds like a few people were able to give you some shortcuts that work!

Haley23 09-15-2020 06:48 PM

Oh, I see what you mean now. That "reuse post" button wasn't there last spring. I think it works! It looks like you'd still have to go into each individual class and do that/choose the students to assign to, but at least it would be a bit faster than trying to copy and paste every part of the assignment and links as well. Thanks!

knit1purl2 09-15-2020 06:40 PM

How can I copy an assignment from one class to another? - - google this question.
To Reuse an existing post from another class, go to the Classwork tab, click the "+" at the top left side of the page, and select "Reuse Post." It will then let you choose which class to choose it from and if you want new copies of the attachments or not.

On the other hand, if you are creating a new post, in the assignment creation window, you can assign that original assignment to multiple classes at one time. In the top left corner of that window, click the drop-down arrow beside the name of the current class and select the classes you wish to also assign it to, and then continue creating the assignment as normal.

I would think that a separate G Classroom for sped is a violation of privacy.

Good luck with distance learning.

Haley23 09-15-2020 06:37 PM

There is no way to do what you're saying for multiple google classrooms at once though, right? I know I could assign something to 3 kids in classroom 1 all at the same time by posting it once and then clicking those 3 names. But then I need the same assignment to go to kids in 3 other gen ed classrooms, so I have to post it four times total, once for each google classroom. The only way you can post to multiple classrooms at once is if you assign it to every student in the class, which isn't what we're doing.

As far as the topics, my P wouldn't let us have our own of those either. Nothing with our names, nothing even with a generic "intervention" or "support" label, etc. She said that created privacy issues because other students/parents in the class could be wondering what those topics are. All of our teachers created each date as a topic, so you wouldn't really have to worry about archiving stuff but it still just got really crowded even with all of those teachers posting assignments under that day.

SDT 09-15-2020 06:07 PM

I’m not sure about the privacy issue with the people tab. My guess is that something that each district would have to decide for themselves. I can see both sides of the issue. However, you said,

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So for each class and every assignment, you had to recreate the whole thing, add all of the links, schedule it, assign it to the specific kids, etc.
You don’t have to do that. Create the assignment the way you want it. Then, you can do one of two things. You can assign it to the first student. Then instead of creating a new assignment, select “reuse post.” Assign it to the second student, and continue with each of your students. You can also assign the post to multiple students without assigning it to all of the students. This might be different from last semester; I’m not sure. But in the same way that you assign it to one student, you can just go down and click all of your students for your initial post. Does that make sense? If not, repost this on the busy board. Ima or Greyhound Girl can probably explain it better.

As for things being a mess, my team solved this way. I created a topic for each of us. I created two topics for each of us. The first one is for current assignments and the second one is four completed or “archived” assignments. At the end of each week, we each move our completed assignments to our second topic and post our new assignments for the next week. My situation is a little bit different because it is self-contained and all the parents and kids know each other anyway. They’ve been together since preschool and this is middle school. The privacy ship sailed along time ago. However, you might could use something similar in your situation.
Haley23 09-15-2020 05:02 PM

I would like to hear some opinions on this. In the spring, all of the specialists were added as co-teachers to the gen ed teacher's google classroom, and we posted all of our assignments there. Obviously we only pushed out the assignments to our individual students for privacy reasons.

The issue was that it was a HUGE PITA to post in all of the different classrooms every day. GC has no way to "batch post" like you can in seesaw. So for each class and every assignment, you had to recreate the whole thing, add all of the links, schedule it, assign it to the specific kids, etc. It took so much time, especially for people who work K-6 and were posting in 18 different classrooms. The google classroom feeds also looked very cluttered up with EL, sped, OT, speech/language, mental health, and specials teachers all posting assignments every day.

This year we thought we'd found a solution. In one of our tech trainings it was suggested that we can each have our own google classroom. We would add a link to our classroom in the gen ed teacher's classroom, and this link would only be shared with kids who need it/not visible to gen ed students in the class.

We started doing that today and one of my teammates said that she doesn't think we can do it this way, because when you click on "people," students/parents can see everyone else who is in the class. So if I make a "Ms. Haley's" google classroom, theoretically kids/parents could click on the "people" tab and find out who else is in sped.

I understand privacy is a big deal but this seems like a bit of a reach to me. When we are in person, everyone in the school can see me walking in the hallways with my students. Obviously, many students are also in my room together. Is this really that different? I asked the tech guy if there was a way to hide that "people" tab. He says no, and the suggestion is to do what we did last spring or create an individual google classroom for every student. Definitely will not be doing that.

Honestly it's not the biggest deal to me either way, as I'm only in 4 classrooms this year, but other people who are in more are pretty upset about it.

Thoughts?




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