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Mental health and legal problems get so intertangled. I hope that your friend gets good care.

The sheriff of a nearby county has said that the county jail is the largest provider of mental health care. Thank goodness the are providing care--but what is wrong with a society that chooses not to help before there are critical problems?

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Jasmine2010 08-06-2021 03:28 PM

I am glad he is getting help.

KingbirdQueen 08-06-2021 05:18 AM

I guess serious injury is aggravated assault and not just assault,so it isnít as serious. But kicking at people and throwing things that have some weight is considered using a deadly weapon in my state, especially if you aim for the face.

I think if he werenít somewhat small and an unskilled fighter in general that it may have been aggravated assault. So there is a chance he will be considered dangerous. It just depends on officer testimony at the dangerousness hearing and how much they think it could happen to an untrained person in the future. Itís possible they only avoided injury because they were trained officers with gear.

TAOEP 08-05-2021 08:27 PM

The assault charge is serious. I hope that no one was actually injured.

KingbirdQueen 08-05-2021 05:41 PM

Thank you everyone.❤️

He was charged with breaking and entering (abandoned building) and six counts of assault against a police officer with a deadly weapon.

BioAdoptMom3 08-05-2021 05:36 PM

As a mom of a child with serious mental illness, I am so relieved to hear this! I know his family must be greatly relieved about this and I know you are too!

Nancy

76lake 08-05-2021 03:09 PM

I just read your previous post. It's so sad about your friend. I hope he gets the help he needs so he doesn't harm himself or someone else.

sbslab 08-05-2021 01:36 PM

Iím glad your friend is in a safe place. It is hard to decide whether or not we should hope he is released. At least in a facility, he is safe and will get treatment. Outside of it, services can be really difficult to come by and often the wait is long.

Thanks for the update.

TAOEP 08-05-2021 01:08 PM

Mental health and legal problems get so intertangled. I hope that your friend gets good care.

The sheriff of a nearby county has said that the county jail is the largest provider of mental health care. Thank goodness the are providing care--but what is wrong with a society that chooses not to help before there are critical problems?

twin2 08-05-2021 12:03 PM

I do not remember seeing your original post on this. It is easy to have an opinion when we do not know the people involved. It is also easy to form an opinion based on our own experiences, which I am doing. A young man who was a friend of my son growing up got sick and his brain was affected. He now has a schizophrenia diagnosis among other diagnosis. The family lives a few doors over. There are several children in the family, all grown, that are friends with my kids, also grown now. This came out of nowhere. The young man has always been a very respectful young man. He was hardworking, went to college with dreams of becoming a doctor. He got sick while in college and had to come home. Now he's legally drugged up for his condition, and says the only thing that helps the constant anxiety is to walk. He walks miles and miles everyday, looking down at the ground so much he doesn't stand up straight anymore. His skin is very weathered. On one occasion, I saw him he wore a white undershirt, which is not dressed for him, and had on one sock, and no shoes. He was waving in the air like he was trying to get something away from him. He was in a crisis. My daughter contacted his sister who contacted his parents. The police found him and he was finally able to get help. You see, even with his family's medical coverage, he hasn't had proper mental health care and has been unable to get it despite his cries for help. That night he was in crisis, so the police were able to get him admitted, where they changed meds around and I assume he got counseling or something. I'm not sure of the process. That's been a couple years, and as far as I know he has been okay, well not really, but not in that condition since. That same young man, that has been so respectful, and doesn't bother anyone, once stood at his parents' bedside with a knife. I don't know details, but this is not something he is doing deliberately. It stems from mental health.

It is very sad that mental health issues exist. It is very sad that further tragedies happen because of mental health issues. It is very sad that as a society, we really don't know what to do with those who truly have mental health issues. It is very sad that people with mental health issues do at times wind up in a general population prison where they don't get the help they need and possibly deteriorate, and even cause more harm. I guess I'm trying to validate what you are sharing. I'm sorry about your friend and hope he truly gets the help he needs. Again, I'm unsure of what he is being tried for, but my mind is going through all sorts of scenerios and thinking about the inadequate mental health system we have in place in this country, and other countries around the world.

linda2671 08-05-2021 12:01 PM

I hope they get him the help he needs. Help for mental health has been ignored for so long.
Thanks for the update.

KingbirdQueen 08-05-2021 11:02 AM

I donít know if anyone really cares or not, but it looks like my friend, who I only knew as a small and gentle philosopher in my own youth and who ended up being diagnosed with schizophrenia in his early 20s, will not be going to prison.

He was found mentally incompetent to stand trial. He is in a mental health facility and not prison. He has a hearing in two weeks to determine if he is still dangerous to society at that point. If he is not, he will be released. If he is, he will receive treatment with a reevaluation every two years or less.

If he had killed someone or permanently maimed them, after that two years he would have his trial proceedings if he was under control. Because he didnít, he will be released once he is under control. It could mean he is in the facility for more than two years as the every two years is just the maximum time between re-evaluation hearings. He could could still be incarceration of some type for a long time. But at least itís not general population prison.




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