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That is incredible! You should write a book! Congratulations on being able to do this job for 15 years...I am in year 2 and if I don't get something long term in the next few years, I think I am going to look into something else...

Sorry to hear about your health issues. I hope things are going better for you now. Please do visit us We need and value your input!

Best of luck to you!!!

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Ball Three 02-05-2010 06:38 PM

...that your health issues can be resolved soon so I can continue to be the beneficiary
of your straight-from-the-shoulder coaching, I'd like to refer you to a book which
contains the best health care advice I've seen in the 42 years since Dr. Ken Cooper's
book "Aerobics" came out. (Obviously this is something of a long shot since I don't
know the nature of your issues, but this book deals with a pretty broad spectrum of
illnesses, so I'll take a chance.)

It's a book on nutrition entitled "The China Study," by T. Colin Campbell, who was a
prof at Cornell when he wrote it about 5 years ago. This book cuts through the
landfill of conflicting advice that's out there; it's well documented, and, like you,
doesn't pull any punches. It's worth reading even if your present issues are as
straightforward as a busted arm.

Good luck, buddy.

lovetosub 01-27-2010 01:58 PM

Ditto what everyone else said. I enjoyed your insight.

Kataqueens 01-26-2010 04:33 PM

I hope your health improves, and that you fall into more gainful and lucrative employment somewhere down the line. You work so hard for so long, thinking it might pay off, and it usually doesn't, but I wish the best for you. Like many have said, I have followed your posts and appreciated your blunt and helpful advice. It's a tough job that shouldn't be sugar-coated all the time, that's for sure!

Good luck!

googiebump 01-26-2010 04:43 AM


I'm sorry to hear of your health issues. I hope you keep feeling better. Taking a break is always a good thing!

And I hope that you'll keep posting with advice for us subs. You've got more experience than most of us will ever have and it doesn't matter whether you're still working or not.

I, personally, have printed out several of your posts over the years and have read them, especially at the beginning of the year to get me in the right mindset for subbing. Your advice is really appreciated.


Mrs. Poppins 01-25-2010 04:46 PM

First of all, I am sorry that you are having health problems and hope you will be feeling better soon! I have enjoyed reading your "spirited" posts since I've been a member; I appreciate your "tell it like it is" way of getting your point across! It's an absolute crying shame subs don't get paid more, especially if you work at schools with chronic behavior problems, non-supportive administration, crazy work conditions, etc. Hats off to you for teaching as long as you have...most of us probably won't last that long! I have to say, as I have in one other post, that I am one of the lucky ones. I work in a low income district, made up of African Americans, Caucasions, and Hispanics equally. Our schools are "no tolerance" and the administration firmly adheres to this rule. They are always supportive of subs, and welcome our opinions and suggestions. We still don't get paid very much, really really not much, but it's nice to know that our school district seems to really care. My hope for you, is that when your health improves, you will find something to do that fills your mind and spirit!

Smiling Sub 01-25-2010 04:45 PM

That is incredible! You should write a book! Congratulations on being able to do this job for 15 years...I am in year 2 and if I don't get something long term in the next few years, I think I am going to look into something else...

Sorry to hear about your health issues. I hope things are going better for you now. Please do visit us We need and value your input!

Best of luck to you!!!

happygal 01-25-2010 02:04 PM

I hope your health continues to improve. I will miss hearing you chime in on the threads. Good luck to you! You have often made me laugh out loud with your posts. You will be missed.

MikeRocode 01-25-2010 01:05 PM

The daily rate hasn't increased in the last six years I've been doing this. In fact it was cut $5/day after the first year I started.

I've been out all last week with an illness and enjoyed shutting off the phone for the duration. I no longer feel obligated to take every call that comes my way.

I had a late morning call at 7:00am this morning for an assignment at 7:30am. Sure I could have dressed and made it but the pouring rain outside was the tipping point in letting it go.

Subbing is a "Supply and Demand" type job. The way the economy is right now there is more supply than demand and therefore no incentive to pay more than the market will support.


ciounoi 01-25-2010 12:37 PM

So am I, actually. Student teaching, also some health issues.

Have fun on your break! We look forward to hearing from you again!

TxFlower 01-25-2010 11:44 AM

Hopefully, you are feeling better.

Take a break, you deserve it.

I was wondering how the districts around here can get away with paying so little. The one doesn't even pay minimum wage. The others are *right* at minimum wage. You'd think they'd appreciate subs at least a little more. Is serving someone a hamburger more worthy than someone substitute teaching? Weird.

Anyway, please visit and share with us newbies.

thordau4 01-25-2010 08:23 AM

I haven't seen you much here lately and I've missed your insights and ideas and especially your healthy attitude. I always appreciate your posts, so I hope you do continue to drop in and make comments.
I hear you about boredom! It's a close second for the worst things about not working. I've got a couple years before retiring and I'm already thinking about how to manage my time!

subczy 01-25-2010 07:49 AM

I can totally understand how you feel. These are the biggest reasons I don't get my teaching degree. Our reg. teachers are well paid but having to deal w/ that behavior day in and day out on top of everything else our reg. teachers deal with and I just couldn't sign up. At least w/ subbing I get to choose where I am going to be and don't have to go back if it isn't enjoyable.

At xmas time I put pressure on myself to work more to help pay some bills and it took a toll on my family (as well as having to put aside my other work at home job which is flexible) and my dh reminded me - this is supposed to be enjoyable and to CUT BACK my hours so i have joy and give joy. he was right. I am off work today and it feels GOOD! lol

As for a raise. I jsut finished my assoc. degree and since they changed the pay scale this year to read ANY degree is a certain rate that mean sI get $5/day more for full days. Yeah me. The degree cost me $5k but whatever lol (I did it for myself anyway, not THIS job). My friend has subbed in the dist. on and off since early 80's and said except for that wording change tehre has been no increase on pay in all that time. that is SAD. especially when we are short subs all the time.

Enjoy your down time and find something else to do !

wnlbutterfly 01-25-2010 07:40 AM

You have 15 yrs of subbing experience to share, I certainly hope don't forget about us here!!

I think you deserve a sabbatical, you have earned it.

I also agree with your assessment of the budget cuts, we have several meetings set up to discuss how our school district is going to cut $2 million from the budget...sigh!

Enjoy your time off!!

Augustus 01-25-2010 06:25 AM

I had some health issues just before Xmas, and after Xmas I just didn't feel like going back. The behavior of the students has been increasingly bad for a number of years now. It just continues to decline and that is also the opinion of everyone I know. Checked my records and this was my fifteenth years of subbing. In the last ten years I had not received one pay increase. Wait, I think one district gave me a dollar or two more per day about five or six years ago. With the way the economy is going, I foresee no pay increase. Ever.
I am officially on a sabbatical or something so I can go back. I am not saying that I won't go back, perhaps next year. Depends on some things, my health and how bored I get. That last one is probably the deciding factor.
If you don't mind, although no longer active, I might still drop in here from time to time.

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