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What is a PBL? I teach 4th grade is it something I should know or do?
PBL is project based learning unit. The difference between that and a regular unit with a project at the end is that the students learn while they are doing the project-they learn through this weeks long rigorous project, rather than learning first and doing a summative project. The project process is long and it takes a lot of work and learning to make it to the end successfully and it should take weeks to complete. There are a lot of check in's to make sure they are on track. And a lot of check off sheets to make sure they did all of the parts. I combine it with GLAD strategies and each kid completes work in a specific color of colored pencil so that I can see who does what work, and they journal about the collaborative process.

It is a ton of work, and very time consuming and a whole lot of planning but I have also found it to be very rewarding in terms of learning and engagement. It too much to teach like that ll year so I do 3 PBL's a year (each lasting about 6 weeks).

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1totravel 04-07-2019 08:16 PM

1. Not crazy to want and to ask for credit to be given to you.

2. More importantly, it should not be a given that she always gets the high, non-behavior issue students. That is not educationally sound, not fair, and not a "friendly' thing for her to be fine with it. I would make an appt. with my principal, instead of popping in to chat, so he/she realizes the seriousness of the conversation. Bring whatever proof you have that this repeatedly happens, bring studies that show that type of tracking is not a good idea, and ask flat-out why it continues to happen and what can be done to assure it never happens in any future school years. It is not right! And if your principal continues to do it, I'd try to rally your friend to speak to the inequity of it. I think a true friend would.

ZipLine 04-07-2019 02:03 PM

Do you have a bulletin board for your class in the hallway outside your door? Take some pics, hang up the kids’ work, and let your P know your kids would love him/her to see their work. If you don’t, you can still let your P know about your creative PBL’s with an email. Send a pic of some kids working together and a brief description of the activity.

It’s perfectly fine to share your ideas with the P from time to time and brag on your kids working hard in class.

lil_bit 04-07-2019 01:32 PM

I know at my school we meet once a month for data talks. I would be tooting my own horn there the next time this happened

"I'm so excited to see the growth with my students. I've worked really hard to do something to engage them more. I'm excited to see how so-and-sos class likes it since our classes are different make-ups"

sisterwoman 04-07-2019 11:29 AM

I donít know that I would want to share it if she has made jabs about your PBL units. Taking pics of your students working on these and sharing them with your P is a great idea. I would also put the date and your initials at the bottom of any papers that you share with her.

tyrex 04-07-2019 09:53 AM

Not being petty. I like the suggestion to outright tell her to let the P know where the ideas came from. But if you do this 18 weeks a year and she's never before done it, if your P can't figure out the ideas came from you, then you have a worthless P. Especially since PBL has a sharing piece at the end with parents or community.

And if your P is wothless, then she/he will think the way he wants regardless of what your teammate says.

If she often takes credit then maybe you can start a Twitter account where you promote all the cool things you're doing, and tag your school's Twitter and the P's Twitter. That's not my style, but if I were in your shoes I'd do it.

anna 04-07-2019 09:20 AM

I agree with those who say you are not being petty at all. Is there a way to put a trademark signature of yours on all of the materials she uses?

hand 04-07-2019 08:15 AM

It is sad that she is not giving you the credit you deserve. Iíd put it in writing. Iíd email her telling her that you are so glad that she is using your idea. Tell her you hope that the P likes it and if P has any questions or if she needs suggestions, youíll be happy to help.
Make sure you are documenting things in your classroom. Take pictures of your class doing these activities. Keep digital copies of your planning for these activities. Make sure you include dates. Although, I absolutely loved working cooperatively with my team, I know that with the evaluation systems now in place you need to be able to toot your own horn during evaluations.

Kinderkr4zy 04-07-2019 08:13 AM

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What is a PBL? I teach 4th grade is it something I should know or do?
PBL is project based learning unit. The difference between that and a regular unit with a project at the end is that the students learn while they are doing the project-they learn through this weeks long rigorous project, rather than learning first and doing a summative project. The project process is long and it takes a lot of work and learning to make it to the end successfully and it should take weeks to complete. There are a lot of check in's to make sure they are on track. And a lot of check off sheets to make sure they did all of the parts. I combine it with GLAD strategies and each kid completes work in a specific color of colored pencil so that I can see who does what work, and they journal about the collaborative process.

It is a ton of work, and very time consuming and a whole lot of planning but I have also found it to be very rewarding in terms of learning and engagement. It too much to teach like that ll year so I do 3 PBL's a year (each lasting about 6 weeks).
checkerjane 04-07-2019 07:55 AM

No advice, just another person confirming you are not being petty. Iíd feel the same way!

elmo33 04-07-2019 06:28 AM

I donít think it is a petty concern. You have worked hard and deserve the credit, can you use this for your observation and explain how much work youíve put in? What are PBLís?
I donít know that I would consider this teammate a friend. Could she be saying something to the P to make her class the way it is?

ElizabethJoy 04-07-2019 04:27 AM

You're human. The way you feel is the way you feel. It would be nice to be so selfless that you wouldn't mind someone else getting the praise....personally, I'm not that generous yet. Working on it

Lakesides idea is a good one, but beyond that I think you have to let it go. You sound like you're doing a brilliant job and are confident in your abilities. Sometimes that's gotta be enough.

I'm curious about why your coworker doesn't get the 'behaviour' kids though. That would really bother me because ultimately, that's not ideal for you or the kids.

travelingfar 04-07-2019 04:26 AM

It isn't easy, but it is best to step back from competition with teammates. It is frustrating to see someone take credit for your idea but, sadly, there isn't much you can do about it.

She sounds annoying. I don't like people who criticize my teaching.

whiteturtle 04-07-2019 03:29 AM

I agree that asking her is the way to go. She may respond back that she didn't do it "just like you" and at that point, I would tell her that I always give the credit to others when I use an idea of hers or anyone else's.

Beyond that, I have consciously chosen to step off the competition train. When I feel the feelings you've mentioned, I remind myself that my first priority is to give myself a happy life (competing with others doesn't allow that). I also remind myself that what I shared is helping children. Finally, I remind myself that being a shiny star just gets you more work in this profession. I know it's hard and you aren't wrong for feeling the way you feel at all. Speak your mind and then choose happiness for yourself. You deserve that.

Lakeside 04-07-2019 03:09 AM

Flat out ask her to mention you.

When she says the P is coming in on X day, say something like "Oh, that's great! My review is coming up, and I could really use the bonus points for sharing things. - Please remember to tell her where you got it!"

SwollenAnkles 04-06-2019 09:10 PM

FJust because we are teaching children does not mean we are immune to human emotions. I think it is okay to feel this way. You work hard and want credit for that hard work. It is not fair that you get the behaviors and low strugglers. I find the teachers that have those classes and survive and get decent scores are far superior to the ones that have it so easy. Remember that!
What is a PBL? I teach 4th grade is it something I should know or do?

Kinderkr4zy 04-06-2019 08:32 PM

I have a grade level partner that always gets the high kids and zero behaviors. ITs the way it goes and its not gonna change. We often share ideas but I cant always embrace what she is doing because ... well... we have very different classes. Things that work for her dont work for me or my kids,

Well a few times I felt like she did a subtle jab at some of my PBL's or lessons and she sort of insinuated that teaching this way is a fad that doesnt provide the best results. She also seemed to suggest that they are just parent pleasers-to which I explained the vast mountain of learning that it actually facilitates. I just shrugged it off since it works for me and my numbers, while lower than hers, speak for themselves. Her numbers are higher but mine have way more growth and together our numbers are at the top. And we really are friends and we work very well together. We have been called the glue of the grade level.


Well she has decided to she wants to embrace one of my PBL's-it really is a the the best thing I have come up with and I really worked hard on it so I should be glad, and flattered but...

I feel like her class of high achievers will get all the credit for it when they pull it off seamlessly. Ans she has taken credit for my ideas before -it was a small thing but she just let people praise her and she didnt mention that the ideas were all mine.

It just eats at me sometimes when I see someone else take credit for my work. Its not like she doesnt execute it well and deserve credit for that but I...I still feel like she should drop my name as the person who came up with it. Well now I feel like she is gonna steal my credit again. She invited the P to see her class do part it-something I havent done and have no one but myself t blame if I wanted credit. But I didnt care if anyone saw or praised the work until I thought someone was gonna take credit for my work. I kinda felt like it was not cool to invite someone in to to watch her teach my PBL, like she is gonna steal the credit again. I know, I know, we are all in this together but...I still feel like I want to get credit for my work and ideas rather than letting my work and ideas bolster someone else. I am aware of how petty it sounds...

I see people post on here about how we shouldn't be competing and we should be collaborating for the good of all students. Is that what I am doing here? I just wish I knew what to say or that I didn't feel the need to say anything. its just ...bugging me.




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