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I thought I was the only sub who felt lonely!Glad to hear from those who feel the same!

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lisajohnljc 11-26-2017 04:43 PM

Subbing can be super lonely. The worst part, is that you can't possibly make the relationships at the school that u need to propel u forward in any sort of teaching career or even just feeling like you're a part of a particular school.

Worst part is that even schools u go to all the time can turn on u in a second if it suits their need.
You're not a regular employee, and even though it might feel like it when u go to a particular school all the time, you're always held at arms length because you're after all, just a sub! There when they need u, expendable when they don't!

Looking for something else!

McGarrett 11-07-2017 03:43 PM

I sub for several reasons. It pays more than most retail jobs per hour. It is very flexible, and I don't always feel like going into work everyday Monday through Friday. I can take a day off and carry on with my own business to break up the work week. I have choices.

I was a teacher and had a terrible last year. So, I always told myself that I will do my own thing when I leave education full time. I have a part time business. Substitute teaching also contributes to my pension, and that is a huge plus. I currently have about 20 years of education, so again I keep adding more time to my pension the more I work as a substitute.

Being a full time teacher is definitely not what it used to be. There are too many bosses and people telling you what to do. Admin, teachers, coaches, parents, and the kids! As a sub, you are sort of a free agent in a way. Sure most people are your boss in a school, but an advantage is that they don't know you! And you don't have to stick around the next day if you choose not to!

mommysubs 11-05-2017 05:12 PM

I sub in my childrens' future district because, not only does it allow me to work a flexible part-time job with 2 kids at home not yet in school, but I can also get to know a little bit about the school my kids are going to attend. My husband works from home, so I at $110 a day I can earn a little extra income on his slower days while he watches the kids so it is a big help to us. Preschool is not an option for $4000, so it is nice to be able to get to know my boys' future kindergarten teachers and what I will need to teach them to get them ready for their quickly approaching first year of school. Not to mention, I knew nothing about "common core" curriculum before my first year of subbing last year, so it's been a big learning experience for me all around...

sunshine97 10-31-2017 06:15 PM

I thought I was the only sub who felt lonely!Glad to hear from those who feel the same!

Shelby3 10-28-2017 07:08 AM

I retired from teaching a few years ago and while I was more than ready to do so, I didn't want to completely give it up. I enjoy the contact with the kiddos and I'm thrilled when teachers request me to come back to their classroom. The pay is crummy, but I look at it as "beer money". I taught in a large district - over 25 elementary schools. Each school has it's own culture and climate. I only go to the ones that "feel right" to me. Ditto on loving the flexibility! I love locking the door at the end of the day knowing I don't have to grade papers, contact anyone and worry about what will I wear tomorrow!

Summerwillcom 10-27-2017 06:26 PM

of it as a lonely job though. I tend to know our subs, but realize...we don't know their birthdays or families like we do full time staff. I shall be more aware of that and to make sure they feel very included in our chats. I figure subs are all sick of the joke, "Who are you today?" I think the retired people sound like you enjoy going back where the kids or staff are known to you. That is why I did not like subbing. I didn't know any1 including the kids in that city. I like knowing what I am walking into for the most part. I am pretty flexible, but not when I can't get a kid I don't know about to stop jumping high on a couch for what seemed like hrs!! I wouldn't mind subbing where I teach now because I'd kind of know what I was getting Hats off to you who enjoy the kids and are able to do it. I recently found I won't be retiring as soon as I'd So I guess it won't be an issue. I think when I am done, I'll be done. Oh, and good luck and best wishes to those who sub waiting for a FT job to open.

KatrynG 10-26-2017 05:26 PM

I sub because I like going to different schools, meeting new students, and seeing how different teachers decorate their classrooms with learning materials. The flexibility of choosing jobs, schools, and days allow me to take care of my grandchildren for my active duty children.

Last year I only subbed at two schools: this year I've subbed at five schools and am working part-time in my field. The flexibility of subbing allows me to pass on my love of reading to more kids than if I had one classroom. And I get to go on field trips with my grandchildren!

cattleya 10-25-2017 10:51 AM

$100.00 dollars a day in a town where $7.50 per hour is the norm (small town).

MissELA 10-24-2017 07:56 AM

I'm currently a building sub. I'm trying to get a position at this school or another school in the district. I will say that my experience is a different than daily subbing. I'm treated well here. I have my own mailbox and district issued laptop because I do some assignments that last a few weeks. It helps being in the same building. I'm able to build relationships and P likes me.

Pay isn't bad either (for what some subs get at other districts). Before I was offered the building sub position I was going to daily sub which is about $90 a day in this district. I currently get $110 and they have just increased it to $115 for all building subs. So I lose most of the flexibility, but I am able to take a day off here and there. Overall not a bad gig and hopefully it leads to a permanent position.

Cetti 10-24-2017 04:15 AM

I find the para's are the ones I make "friends" with at school b/c they are in the class when I teach and, generally, are the only adults I communicate with on a daily basis! Teachers can really NEED you from time to time, but when they don't you really feel ignored as a Sub.

CC96 10-23-2017 09:23 PM

You hit the nail on the head! It is a lonely job. Subbing does not lend itself to building relationships with staff or students. I find the lunchroom to be, with rare exceptions, a miserable failure at being socially welcoming. I might as well be invisible, even at schools where I sub regularly and am requested.

mooba1 10-23-2017 06:21 PM

"I love that I can teach, go home, and forget about all the other stuff that wore me down." Exactly. After 30 years, I was completely burned out, but after a year of retirement, I got bored. Now I get called as much as I want to, and I enjoy teaching again. Plus, with two kids in college, there is no such thing as extra money laying around.

artladyhere 10-23-2017 06:08 PM

I sub to fill in the gaps with my husband's salary. I take care of all the extras with my kids.

I find subbing a lonely job even though you're surrounded by humans all day long.

I'm in my 3rd year of subbing.

mrsd5 10-23-2017 05:09 PM

Love the teaching. Hate all the rest of it. I sub in my old district-mostly middle and high school. I love that I can teach, go home, and forget about all the other stuff that wore me down. I got moved from high school today down to fifth grade. I chose to look at it as an adventure. I can't believe how hard the elementary teachers have it. Of course, the teacher next to me today told me she could never go higher than fifth grade.

Plus, I like the extra money, as measly as it is. I retired at half retirement pay, so the money is a necessity for now.

I may stop after this year, but I may go one more year. Then...full retirement.

spedder1 10-23-2017 05:03 PM

I need lessons on retirement. Really. Actually, I decided to sub to supplement my retirement income. I retired with only 19.58 years in the system, so my retirement income is quite a bit less than my salary. Luckily I had paid off most of my large bills and had gotten my house upgraded so I shouldn't have any huge house bills any time soon. I finally started to collect Social Security, which isn't much, but helps. This year I decided to cut back on subbing to see how I could do on retirement and SS. Well, a long term in my old classroom came up. I couldn't say no. I started week 4 and am very happy right now, even though I am writing IEPs. Somehow they were able to get me permission to be "on the system". Didn't think that could happen, but where there's a will of administration, there's a way. I have a great group of 9, soon to be 10, students with wonderful para assistance. I will probably be done right before winter break as they are looking to hire a newly graduated teacher. They have their eyes on a couple of them, I guess. I guess I'll try that "cutting down on days" of subbing after the new year.

TiredSub 10-23-2017 03:51 PM

I love the flexibility to wotk or not work. I was a full time Sped teacher for a while, I certainly don't miss writing IEP's or difficult parents

Kailey123 10-23-2017 03:46 PM

I sub because I was looking for a flexible part-time job because we had two kids in college. I love kids, and I love to teach. I'm not a certified teacher in my state, and I'm not interested in becoming one at this point in my life. I figure a sub gets all the good parts of teaching -- the kids, the teaching -- and none of the awful parts -- the parents, the testing, and the administrative stuff. I only sub in one school, the one where my kids went. It's three blocks from my house so my commute is lovely, lol.
I'm lucky that I'm not depending on the income.

Wellson 10-23-2017 03:19 PM

I am also thinking of a career change. I'd like to teach high school or middle school. I figured subbing would be a good way to decide what age group I really prefer. Subbing has shown me I do not want to teach the younger ones. I find classroom management to be easier after elementary, or maybe I just mesh better with the older students.

elepen 10-23-2017 02:55 PM

I love the flexibility and you are already an expert if you are a retired teacher .
I would love to find another way to make extra money from my home or a part time job of something different. But you can't beat subbing for flexibility and making money.

Lakeside 10-23-2017 12:37 PM

My number one reason is flexibility. Deciding when I work and when I don't, and (especially when he was younger) being on the same schedule as my son, are very important to me.

I love working with kids at a variety of ages, without being stressed out over testing or bringing work home!

Cetti 10-23-2017 11:17 AM

I do not have my state's teaching credentials (attended college out of state) so I am still able to work with the kids in the classroom, and usually, less stressful (no grading papers, meetings, etc).

Tapdancesub 10-23-2017 07:07 AM

I left a career in business ( I wrote training manuals and did corporate training) after my second child was born. Did the stay at home mom thing for a while, and then started subbing when my youngest was 7. I needed the flexibility due to my husband's work travel and my ill parents.

Flash forward 12 years, I still need the flexibility, now due to my ill in-laws. I don't enjoy subbing as much as I used too ( one of my schools has had a leadership change, not for the better) but I do love interacting with the students. Right now I work 4 days a week, I need the 5th day to drive my inlaws to appointments and cook their meals for the week. The income helps with 2 kids in college. When my youngest graduates in two years I'll cut back some.

CC96 10-23-2017 05:44 AM

Incomeó although sub pay is shameful, every sub should be paid at least $25 an hour; and schedule flexibility: no grading, lesson planning, meetings, parents etc. but mostly because I could not find an available position in my subject/grade level area at any of the four schools I was interested in teaching at. In two and a half years I will go to a 2 or 3 day a week schedule😊.

MaineSub 10-23-2017 04:09 AM

I sub because I love working with the kids... and the thought that I might just be helping them achieve their potential. I find there's a lot to like about subbing, including the variety (different grades) and scheduling options.

Subs must be super flexible and able to really roll w/ the punches.
The word flexible hits the proverbial nail on the head. It probably helps that we're a fairly small school by most people's standards so it's not too hard to get to know the kids and teachers. There are times when it's challenging, but I wouldn't consider it especially difficult.
lisa53 10-22-2017 04:47 PM

I am a retired chemistry teacher. I have been subbing occasionally for friends who teach science at my former school. It is mostly social for meóI get to see my old friends, and the students are often siblings, children, or even grandchildren of former students. I like to teach, and I am so selective that I have only been subbing about once a week.

My husband recently became ill, and I have decided to stop subbing and perhaps find a different part time job in a local library.

I wonít miss the 5 am alarm clock!

I was pleasantly surprised to find that subbing was so easy. Because I am well known in my small community (at least I guess thatís why...) I have not encountered many behavior problems while subbing.

Summerwillcom 10-22-2017 04:33 PM

I just happened upon a post that led me here. Do you like it? Why? Is it just a job? Do you like the freedom to have days off? Are you trying to get known in the district? I think subbing would be the hardest job in the education field. When I moved states 1X, many yrs ago, someone told me to sub to "get known." I probably subbed 5-7 times before I turned the ringer off on my phone in the morning. I found a temporary job not subbing. One of my most memorable days was w/ a kid who was ADHD and ODD jumping up and down on a couch! Of course, that was not in the sub plans. I have taught most of my life, but seriously could not make him get off of that couch or stop jumping. ( w/out getting physical...which I would not do...) If it had been my own room, I'd have found a way! Offices did not help subs in that city.. It takes special people for different jobs, I guess. Subs must be super flexible and able to really roll w/ the punches. I ask what you like about it because a lot of retired teachers are doing it now. As I get close to retiring, I am considering doing it for friends whose expectations I know and trust when they are in a bind. It is hard to find subs in the area I live. I know why!

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