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I can't wait to try it. I have 2 extremely defiant children who have had to be removed from the room at times. The trainer told me to try whispering in their ear about how we would have to discuss whatever behavior it was that they were doing later. I could hardly believe that it worked and totally diffused the situation! It was too simple!

I have ordered the book. Thanks for all your feedback!

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Kyleebe22 10-06-2007 07:46 PM

Wow what I'm reading on here about Love and Logic sounds wonderful! A school district I have heard about should learn some things from all of you. Their form of love and logic was send them down to a "special" room to cool off and "oh wait before you go back to class here's a piece of candy and don't do it again." The respect for love and logic blew out the window from me. I am glad to hear it works elsewhere though because the true concepts were great if used correctly. Thanks for the information.

AMDucky 09-30-2007 09:11 PM

1 of the Districts that I sub for offered it during their Sub Academy of Free classes the 1st week of school. It was a 7 hr class, free, and I learned lots! You can adjust the vocab and use it at home with your own kids, or even w/ adults. This particular districts also offers Love and Logic parenting classes free to parents! Some of the Districts Schools are Love and Logic schools so it makes it easier!

JRichard 09-30-2007 07:51 PM

The great thing about L&L is that you can learn how to build those defiant students' self-concept so they love you and feel good about themselves. They will act better in your class after you work with them through L&L.

I have used L&L for four years and love it!

smudgie 09-30-2007 12:05 PM

I can't wait to try it. I have 2 extremely defiant children who have had to be removed from the room at times. The trainer told me to try whispering in their ear about how we would have to discuss whatever behavior it was that they were doing later. I could hardly believe that it worked and totally diffused the situation! It was too simple!

I have ordered the book. Thanks for all your feedback!

Teach'n'Learn 09-30-2007 08:18 AM

Teaching with Love and Logic is a great book. There's also a forum for people using the principles. loveandlogicforum.com

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It's big on using the right language with children to offer choices, stay out of power struggles, and let children experience natural consequences (and learn from their mistakes.)
This is what I love about it. Choices are so wonderful. We still have to use "pull a card" as a schoolwide discipline system, but I just incorporate it into the choices "You may sit quietly in your seat during SSR time, or you may lie on the floor quietly, or you may pull a card and read in the office."

I also love "Feel free to . . ." My favorite this year is "Feel free to be as chatty as you want until we cross the yellow line." The kids get as close to the yellow line as they can and then veer off a bit, looking at me to see if I really mean it. But as soon as they cross that line (there's a point in our walk to the room that it becomes necessary and not simply an option), they're silent, even if the students behind them who haven't yet crossed the line are still talking. They will even become silent mid-sentence if necessary. It works much better than "You have to stop talking when we get to the line."

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It is hard work I have to admit and the kids dont really get it at first especially if they live in a reactionary household. I have a really challening class this year and for a week or so I lost my cool and completely lost the love and logic way of things and i was teary after school from being emotionally and physically drained
That sounds like me last year. It is much easier to practice L&L if you have a class that accepts it easily when you first try it out. It's also hard if they are used to being in reactionary classrooms where everything is on a punishment system (detention for everyone and everything!).
teach4fun 09-30-2007 07:22 AM

I use it in my room, I find myself using it 90% of the day and then there are those times that the discussion and consequence method just isnt quick enough and I go back to being reactionary. I have a big difference in myself especially this year. It is hard work I have to admit and the kids dont really get it at first especially if they live in a reactionary household. I have a really challening class this year and for a week or so I lost my cool and completely lost the love and logic way of things and i was teary after school from being emotionally and physically drained, I reread parts of love and logic for teachers and got back in the swing of things and feel much better about my teaching and about me.
I suggest reading up as much as you can on it and if it seems like something you like go for it, knowing it takes a while and it is not someing that will jsut happen.

good luck, Amy P

Mrs.H 09-30-2007 07:07 AM

The program has some great underlying principles. I don't use the program to a "T", but I use several of the underlying concepts when I work with children. There is a book called Teaching with Love and Logic, but I think you can find a lot of good info on their website. There are articles for teachers and parents. It's big on using the right language with children to offer choices, stay out of power struggles, and let children experience natural consequences (and learn from their mistakes.)

smudgie 09-30-2007 05:48 AM

I met a trainer for this behavior system. Does anyone use this or know anything about it?




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