ProTeacher Community - Reply to Topic




Home Join Now Search My Favorites
Help


Post Your Reply!

Renea's Message:

We had a sped teacher exactly this. This gal planned her wedding and decorated her first home with online purchases she made during our school time. It was irritating to hear her brag that she got great evaluations even though she was online and the kids were playing games when the P observed her. The P was besties with her but eventually, this teacher failed to record scores, keep up with IEP's and even lost students under her care. The P turned on when he realized we could be sued for her behavior. Fortunately, she moved out of our district. Not a fun time at our school.

Hope your P sees the truth soon.

Members have more posting options! Sign Up Free!
Random Teacher Question
Name:
Type a guest name (or sign up for a free account)
Descriptive Title (Please do type a title):
  
Message:

Additional Options
Not a member? See the great features you're missing
Did you know? ProTeacher is a FREE service

Discussion Review (newest messages first)
WellDonePleas 05-18-2019 06:56 PM

FashionGirl,

Thank you for your comments. I'm sorry that you felt personally offended by my words as a sped teacher. It was certainly not my intentions regardless of the title and I did try to clarify that on a second post.


Quote:
I have posted many things in the past about my thoughts and the awful things I was experiencing and just wanted a place to vent. Instead, some posters ripped me apart and treated me like the bad guy. I wasn't looking for answers or sympathy, I just wanted an anonymous place to "vent". Instead, I felt like I was being punished for what I was feeling.
In my experience here at the Vent, for the most part, I found a lot of people who kept me from going into depression and insane. When I didn't have any friends and no one believe me, the Vent was there for me. I try my best to always stop by the vent and give back like they did for me.

Therefore, I'm very very sorry that people here at the vent were not understanding and supportive of you when you needed it the most. Perhaps, the right people didn't see your post or didn't visit the vent that day. It happens. In your defense, I have seen some non supportive responses here and there. But, I've also seen other posters report mean spirited or hurtful comments and defend posters.
FashionGirl 05-18-2019 05:53 PM

Yes, it is a vent board, and people are free to post what they want, and I am not here to attack anyone. Perhaps if the title was simply "Lazy Teacher" then I wouldn't have the same reaction. I have posted many things in the past about my thoughts and the awful things I was experiencing and just wanted a place to vent. Instead, some posters ripped me apart and treated me like the bad guy. I wasn't looking for answers or sympathy, I just wanted an anonymous place to "vent". Instead, I felt like I was being punished for what I was feeling.

Nepotism and favoritism by the admin will ALWAYS be part of teaching and in most workplaces. It sucks, but it's just the way it is.

Renea 05-18-2019 03:20 PM

I donít think anyone is saying that SPED teachers are lazy or that they have easy jobs. Nope. No one is saying that. The OP was talking about one specific teacher at her school not all teachers. Weíve all seen ineffective teachers who do the minimum amount of work. Weíve seen some who use friendships with the P to their advantage. We donít like it so we grumble, put our heads down and do our job. We are allowed to vent on this board without being interrogated. Letís allow others to grumble and gripe here without taking offense.

FashionGirl 05-18-2019 03:02 PM

As a sped teacher, I have heard many times that sped teachers are lazy, have easy jobs and do nothing. Maybe this teacher is lazy and has the right friends, but this goes on in all school districts...teaching is one of the biggest "friends and family" jobs out there. In my state, most jobs are already promised to family members or good friends who haven't even graduated school yet!! I'm in NJ, so nepotism and politics have been around since public schools were founded.

Every time gen ed teachers complained, I told them to go get their sped certs if it looks so easy. I would gladly switch and teach their honors or AP classes and they could have my self-contained BD/ED classes. I have the same certifications as they do, as well as graduate degrees and continue to take classes, but I'm lazy. This is why I decided I would NEVER co-teach again.

NewCAteacher 05-18-2019 06:30 AM

Iím a sped teacher and I can relate. I taught self contained for a couple years and now I do a pull-out/push-in model. Those years in self contained really whooped my work ethic into shape. Seriously. Now, I cannot STAND to see resource teachers sit on the computer for several hours per day, complain about gen ed teachers ďnot differentiating enough,Ē or waste large amounts of instructional time. If I have a student with me for over an hour a day, I give them breaks. There are a couple sped teachers out there who definitely abuse the situation of not having a classroom of kids all day. Thankfully, they arenít very common.

GoodEnough85 05-17-2019 07:12 PM

and I wasn't really ranting... But, point taken, Vent away, my friend, vent away.

IcyPeppermint 05-17-2019 05:43 AM

I don't agree with GoodEnough's rant because for one this is a vent board and secondly, just like she states that you can't make an assumption, she can't make one about the situation based on one post. As teachers, we all know that a lot of the observations of laziness or not doing one's job is not judgemental or an assumption--we have enough proof after working with the person. I got blasted for venting that grades below me weren't doing their job. I knew for a fact that the middle school teachers were watching movies and not teaching standards.

It actually does affect you if sped isn't doing their job. I don't know where you are at, but at both districts I worked at, if sped wasn't doing their job, they were sure comfortable telling gen ed teachers that we weren't doing ours in inclusion..

msd2 05-17-2019 04:54 AM

"When you pop in to drop stuff off, you see just a moment in time... a tiny portion of her day."

There is no reason, ever, for a teacher to be doing anything other than work when students are in the class. If you see an Amazon shopping site or wedding planning site, that is a problem if they are sitting there looking at that page.

WellDonePleas 05-16-2019 07:11 PM

Quote:
How do you know what they are doing and/or what she is doing? When you pop in to drop stuff off, you see just a moment in time... a tiny portion of her day.
I know, it is not an assumption, and it is not a one time thing! I won't go into details. I won't give myself out.

Quote:
I've done SpEd K-12 by now and have rarely had anyone else providing lessons or materials in those classes. I always have a lesson and other material to cover or another activity planned.
Exactly my point. Nothing of that sort from this teacher EVER!!!! Nothing!!!!

Quote:
Some people just do not realize how hard it is to juggle the multiple ability levels, age levels, behavior plans and standards it can be for a SpEd teacher.
Rest easy, I don't put all sped teachers in the same bunch. I do respect competent Sped Ed teachers. This one is LAZY!
GoodEnough85 05-16-2019 02:13 PM

How do you know what they are doing and/or what she is doing? When you pop in to drop stuff off, you see just a moment in time... a tiny portion of her day.

Are you SpEd as well? Sometimes kids in SpEd get breaks they have earned (or need to reduce frustration/prevent meltdowns or shutdown,) sometimes kids need to work on independent activities, sometimes teachers scan the internet looking for new ideas, worksheets or even the answer to a student's question.

You could pop into my classroom at least once a day and see that exact same scenario.

As to the modified materials, are you supposed to provide materials at this time? I've done SpEd K-12 by now and have rarely had anyone else providing lessons or materials in those classes. I always have a lesson and other material to cover or another activity planned. I do that first and get to the homeroom material only if time allows. (Unless the homeroom teacher has communicated with me that she has things she needs me to cover, I do my lesson plans based on student need.)

Anyway, she may be lazy or she may not--you may have different expectations for her time with the shared students. I think that it would be best to talk with her instead of making assumptions. If she is supposed to be doing classroom support, the modified lessons from you are appropriate. If she is working on her own curriculum, behaviors, learning disabilities, or whatever, she has more freedom in her lesson plans.

Some people just do not realize how hard it is to juggle the multiple ability levels, age levels, behavior plans and standards it can be for a SpEd teacher.

Renea 05-16-2019 01:07 PM

We had a sped teacher exactly this. This gal planned her wedding and decorated her first home with online purchases she made during our school time. It was irritating to hear her brag that she got great evaluations even though she was online and the kids were playing games when the P observed her. The P was besties with her but eventually, this teacher failed to record scores, keep up with IEP's and even lost students under her care. The P turned on when he realized we could be sued for her behavior. Fortunately, she moved out of our district. Not a fun time at our school.

Hope your P sees the truth soon.

WellDonePleas 05-16-2019 12:04 PM

The Sped teacher really irritates me. Sooooooo lazy! Every time I entered the classroom, the students are working on their own or chatting at the table doing nothing. The sped teacher is browsing the Internet.

I've left modified activities and the students have received no help. The turn in the activities incomplete even after I gave the teacher an explanation and them as well. Isn't that great to be buddy-buddy with the P. It sure pays. I get sick every time I see this teacher walking around as if the school is his or hers. I guess it does if you have the principal wrap around your pinky.




Sign Up Now

Sign Up FREE | ProTeacher Help | BusyBoard

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:06 PM.

Copyright © 2019 ProTeacher®
For individual use only. Do not copy, reproduce or transmit.
source: www.proteacher.net