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In some places, classroom teachers teach some sort of EL block during the day rather than having a seperate EL teacher provide services. And in other places, they just require a certain number of teachers to have the certification and they just split the ELs among those classroom teachers.

Here in CO, my school does still have EL teachers, but it's definitely not a shortage area. Due to the number of EL students we have, it's a really popular choice for teachers to do some sort of EL program for their MA degrees, and a lot of teachers are seeking positions that would give them a break from being in the regular classroom. I know in my former district, where we used to have EL teachers, they've done away with the position all together and have classroom teachers teach a daily EL block.

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cruxian 08-12-2019 02:35 PM

Dunno if this helps (or if you'll come back to revisit this post) but I'm in the DC area and we seem to have a steady stream of students in need of ESOL support at a variety of level. Interesting clarification about the state funding. I've seen a trend that many teachers are adding an ESOL endorsement since it's just an additional test. We've also had (at my previous elementary school which was relatively small for the county at 450 students) at least 4 full-time ESOL teachers, one of whom I think exclusively worked with 4/5 grades. Best of luck!!!

Chiyo 07-31-2019 06:37 PM

Hiya all:

1. Thanks for the heads up about New Mexico and the DC area. I have also heard decent things about Virginia.

2. In terms of "cutting ESOL," my state is choosing to reduce state funds, not federal funds. Many ESOL jobs have become part-time gigs, or one teacher is shared among multiple schools. Or they just increase the ESOL class sizes as much as they legally can. Consolidate grades and such.

3. ESOL has become a much more popular area, and unlike SPED, you can just take a certification test. I ran into a Spanish teacher a while back and when I said that I was looking for an ESOL teacher position, she commented that ESOL positions are the MOST competitive positions in her district. Many, many teachers want to go into ESOL now, way more than when I got my degree a couple years ago. Finally, there is also a push in many schools for all of their teachers to have ESOL certification. Thus, when positions DO open up, the school just hires within.

4. I actually got my education degree in what could be called "intermediate" grades. I can teach upper elementary (4,5) and middle school (6,7,8) . The problem is that I'm limited to two certification areas. That rules out nearly all elementary ESOL jobs, since they want early childhood certification too. Yes, according to my certificate, I can teach P-12 ESOL. But they've gotten a lot pickier in recent years with having other certification. For example, Secondary English if you are teaching high school ESOL.

5. It's just a theory but I suspect that the type of people who used to pursue ESOL aimed to teach internationally. However, wages have stagnated while costs of living, inflation, and taxes have all increased around the world. Not to mention, the problems with retirement. I wouldn't be surprised if this is leading ESOL teachers to stay home or return home earlier than planned.

Thanks to everyone who commented.

Eliza 07-29-2019 04:43 AM

I live in a mid-sized city that has long been a resettlement point for a major international refugee organization. For each of the (almost) 20 years I've been working here, we would have an influx of refugees into our school system early in our school year. Our last group of refugees arrived in 2016. While we still have newcomers to our city, the number is much smaller than it was.

We're cutting ESOL teachers not because of budgets but because the number of students who need their services has diminished. Our school is looking forward to the day the influx of new students picks up again. They have always been a vital part of our school culture.

Until and unless immigration policies change, I suspect the ESOL career path might not be an easy one.

Haley23 07-28-2019 05:58 PM

In some places, classroom teachers teach some sort of EL block during the day rather than having a seperate EL teacher provide services. And in other places, they just require a certain number of teachers to have the certification and they just split the ELs among those classroom teachers.

Here in CO, my school does still have EL teachers, but it's definitely not a shortage area. Due to the number of EL students we have, it's a really popular choice for teachers to do some sort of EL program for their MA degrees, and a lot of teachers are seeking positions that would give them a break from being in the regular classroom. I know in my former district, where we used to have EL teachers, they've done away with the position all together and have classroom teachers teach a daily EL block.

cruxian 07-28-2019 05:21 PM

Huh. I was going to write something like K12ENLTeacher...I thought the ESOL services were federal mandate, therefore largely contingent on enrollment. I was also under the impression that you had to have an elementary education certification in addition to an ESOL degree.
FWIW, the DC area usually has a steady need for ESOL teachers.

K12ENLTeacher 07-27-2019 11:22 AM

what is the process for cutting ESL services? I mean, is it not mandated to provide services once a student is identified as EL? I see the only way to cut the ESL services is, let's say, the enrollment is rather low. But even then, the school may employ a part-time ESL teacher. I do not think cutting ESL services is the same as cutting art or music. Something illegal here I am sensing. Unless, the schools eliminate push in and pull out services and require that teachers provide services as integrated ENL.

GraceKrispy 07-27-2019 08:29 AM

New Mexico is usually looking for TESOL teachers- especially Albuquerque (last I looked). Good luck! I hope you are able to find something!

I didn't know someone could get the TESOL/ESOL certification without having teacher certification first, though.

Chiyo 07-26-2019 08:16 AM

I live in Georgia and many districts here are cutting ESOL services to balance budgets. Combined with my lack of elementary certification, I fear this is an omen for my future career as an ESOL teacher here. Are there other states or regions where ESOL is more in demand?




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