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teachnkids's Message:

Wow! Way to attack OP!

She asked when it would be safe for salons to open. Many people really, really want a haircut.

It was suggested she contact someone about doing it outside. Never said she'd get one inside. Masked outside is definitely safer than anytime inside. Just read CA current mandates and I guess I would rethink that and not get one outside. Says no gatherings of any kind. Maybe OP wasn't aware of that.

Yes, it's not a good idea to go to a salon, inside or outside, in CA, but I truly think it could have been expressed with kinder words.

I am going through salon withdrawal. Here in NC they are open. I was going, but haven't been since Oct. My stylist got covid and then our numbers started spiking. I'm usually there 2+ hours. Not happening anytime soon. Outside, likely not because even though she's had Covid, she can carry virus and I'm not willing to risk it. Luckily I can do an ok job coloring at home.

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oic 01-10-2021 06:57 PM

I donít know exactly what the original post said, but I gather it had to do with the desire to visit a hair salon in CA and when they might reopen.

I had been maintaining a short, pixie kind of cut for many years. Since it has been many months without a cut now, the hair on the back side has reached my shoulders. Of course, it doesnít look very good, but I just look at it as a challenge to see what I can do by myself to make me look presentable. Iíve snipped my bangs, and try blow drying it in different ways. And, I tell myself this gives me an opportunity, that when salons do reopen I now have the option of trying a new longer haircut style; get a new post-covid look. Lol.

I have no idea when salons might reopen, so I just try to practice keeping perspective and patience to get through these times.

Gromit 01-10-2021 05:55 PM

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I just read CA current mandates and I guess I would rethink that and not get one outside. Says no gatherings of any kind. Maybe OP wasn't aware of that.
I'm aware of California mandates and I live in Oregon. There's no reason for a Californian not to be aware of them.
amiga13 01-10-2021 05:52 PM

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Yes, it's not a good idea to go to a salon, inside or outside, in CA, but I truly think it could have been expressed with kinder words.
Youíre right. I apologize.
teachnkids 01-10-2021 05:39 PM

Wow! Way to attack OP!

She asked when it would be safe for salons to open. Many people really, really want a haircut.

It was suggested she contact someone about doing it outside. Never said she'd get one inside. Masked outside is definitely safer than anytime inside. Just read CA current mandates and I guess I would rethink that and not get one outside. Says no gatherings of any kind. Maybe OP wasn't aware of that.

Yes, it's not a good idea to go to a salon, inside or outside, in CA, but I truly think it could have been expressed with kinder words.

I am going through salon withdrawal. Here in NC they are open. I was going, but haven't been since Oct. My stylist got covid and then our numbers started spiking. I'm usually there 2+ hours. Not happening anytime soon. Outside, likely not because even though she's had Covid, she can carry virus and I'm not willing to risk it. Luckily I can do an ok job coloring at home.

LazyLake 01-10-2021 05:13 PM

Gromit, thank you for clarifying the time in the salon.

I forgot that many go in a salon for a lot longer for their appointment.

My haircut takes only 15 minutes! (Back when I would go get one!) I only go in for a cut, just spray my hair to wet it, no washing, drying or styling. My stylist knows my regular trim. Why? I would go right home, and shower/rinse hair to get those few hair clippings off of me.

MKat 01-10-2021 05:04 PM

I guess I only wish my hair was a big enough problem to take up much brain space during this pandemic. Sure, I think about it when I'm trying to tie/pin back my hair that is the longest it's been in 30 years trying to look reasonable for a zoom meeting, but there are so many bigger problems I've just reminded myself it doesn't matter. It's so far down my list right now. I'm kind of jealous of those who are able to worry about their hair.

In good news, We just got back from driving 2 hours to meet both of my siblings and their spouses for a much needed family visit to discuss our parent's care, physically distanced and masked, in a parking lot and had a really nice two hour visit. (The park we thought we were meeting at was closed.) BRRR, it was cold though!

MalloryJames 01-10-2021 05:00 PM

I want to clarify: I would not go in a salon right now and if my sister weren't a hairdresser, I wouldn't have gotten a haircut since last Feb. And we do it outside with masks!

Gromit 01-10-2021 04:49 PM

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Just my opinion, but one could compare going into a beauty salon to going into a grocery store, etc. at this time.
I disagree.

In a grocery store, the building is larger to minimize viral loading, you are 6-8 feet away from other people (at least if you're following guidelines, you are), and you can be in and out quickly. Plus food is a requirement for people.

In a salon, you are in close contact with another person for an hour or more in a smaller building, and getting a haircut is not a requirement.

What are the etceteras? Restaurants? Non-grocery retail stores? A restaurant is comparable because you're in a small building for an extended period. And it's even worse because you're unmasked and talking continuously. And I agree that you should absolutely not be eating inside a restaurant right now.

Non-grocery retail, you can be in and out and stay far away from others. So I'd say that it's not directly comparable. However, I would also argue that she shouldn't be browsing retail stores and hanging out with the staff or other shoppers either. Not in Southern California or other areas with out of control spread. High positivity rates means not enough testing is being done to stop asymptomatic and presymptomatic exposures. Plus her region's hospitals are desperately overwhelmed. To be doing these things or gathering in private groups is the height of irresponsibility.

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Bottom line is that entering any building for any length of time where there are others carries the chance of catching or spreading the virus.
Exactly. Which is why "stop swapping air" is the #1 guideline we should be adhering to, especially in Southern California
LazyLake 01-10-2021 04:30 PM

Just my opinion, but one could compare going into a beauty salon to going into a grocery store, etc. at this time. Any of us can try and justify to ourselves and others the need to do so. Bottom line is that entering any building for any length of time where there are others carries the chance of catching or spreading the virus.

We are all justifying to ourselves why we are doing things that we really don't need to be doing at this time.

We certainly don't need to be making judgements on others if we are someone who is turning around and doing pretty much the same thing.

Not naming any names here, just expressing a general observation for my area.

1totravel 01-10-2021 02:59 PM

One thing that would help is much wider spread testing. Right now in CA, at least in OC, it is mostly the people who think they might have it or think they might have been exposed to it who get tested, which makes the numbers quite highly positive. If EVERYONE got tested, not only would it help find carriers who are asymptomatic, but the positivity rate would go down as a bigger percentage would be testing negative than how it is now.

LazyLake 01-10-2021 01:27 PM

Not upset with your post. It's just not a good time to go into a salon, at least in my area.

I haven't had a haircut in months. My hair is taking an "interesting" turn.
My thick hair is naturally curly/wavy, and I'm enjoying seeing it in a long version. I'm buying hair clips now, and I enjoy wearing them.


If I were a teen or in my early 20's, living in the early 1940's, I'd be rocking a very stylish hairdo, but, alas, it's 2021, and I'm not that young!

One good thing is that I don't color or highlight my hair. That might poise a problem at this time for some, especially for some who might have claimed their color/highlights to be "natural."

amiga13 01-10-2021 01:19 PM

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This is yet another example of skewed reality. Donít blame those of us who denounce your behavior. Think about, as I recommended to you the last time you brought this up, being honest. Look up the meaning of integrity. Think about the examples of cheating and manipulation you demonstrate for your children. Iím not upset, but I think you should be.
SoCalTeach 01-10-2021 01:05 PM

My mom comes home from the hospital today after a month (non-COVID). She had to move from the Telemetry floor to the Oncology unit because it is one of the few places in the hospital that are considered "clean" from the virus. It confused her.

I have to admit that I went to my hairstylist's home (in-home salon) and got my nails done (the owner kept the salon closed it but took people one at a time to do their nails.

I have now decided that the virus is way worse now and now refuse to leave my house except for necessities. Knowing how backed up the hospital is, I don't want to risk it. I can't wait to take the shot so I can be around my mom again!

Gromit 01-10-2021 12:10 PM

Your post isn’t what what “upset” people. We’re already pissed off because your attitude is not unique to you.

And don’t make this into “oh, everybody has to do what’s right for them.” You do what’s right for your neighbor, your state, your country, your world. Especially because, if I recall correctly, you claim to be a Christian. It’s even more appalling that it’s evangelical Christians who are promoting the “do what’s right for you” line when that is the exact opposite of what Jesus said was the greatest commandment. You cannot love God if you do not love your neighbor.

And before anyone comes at me with “but businesses are hurting,” see above where I indirectly suggest we love our neighbors by finding ways to support businesses that don’t involve putting people in harm’s way. But that’s not what the “we have to support small business!” is really all about. If it were, if would be no big deal to give $20-100 or more here and there to businesses in danger of failing. People want to get something for their money, which means it’s really about them. Or it would be no big deal to pressure your elected representatives to have promoted and voted for a package that *actually helped.* Instead, it’s all compassion theater while literally billions go to big corporations.

FionaJ 01-10-2021 11:41 AM

Any number of deaths is too many, and I agree that there is reason to keep CA salons closed right now, but this is not correct:

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thousands of people are dying in California every day
Thousands are dying every day in the U.S. Hundreds are dying each day in CA. It is terrible and I hope things improve soon.
Gromit 01-10-2021 10:59 AM

I havenít had a haircut since February. I will survive. Iíve bought a gift certificate to my hairdresser to provide money to her business now. Iím not going to contribute to the overwhelming of hospitals and death of people even if they are ďjust the elderly and already ill.Ē

Your area is overwhelmed. People are being denied oxygen if they are at at least 90% because thatís the lowest you can go before risking organ impairment. People are being turned away from ERs, and first responders are triaging in the field to decide who gets a trip to the hospital right now and who doesnít.

There is a new wildly contagious variant spreading right now.

To ask how you can skirt the rules to get a haircut is the height of selfishness and arrogance. If you want to support small businesses, buy gift certificates, donate your stimulus directly, put pressure on your government to provide support for business, donate to organizations helping small businesses.

Donít do the thing that keeps us in this crisis even longer. For a haircut.

cvt 01-10-2021 10:58 AM

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Please donít go to a hairdresser now. Many have been working covertly and you are risking contact with every other person they see.
I agree. I'd like to add that they are in danger of losing their license if they are caught.
sonoma 01-10-2021 10:44 AM

Please donít go to a hairdresser now. Many have been working covertly and you are risking contact with every other person they see. I know people are hurting for money. But thousands of people are dying in California every day and a big part of it is due to community spread. A haircut is not worth dying.

amiga13 01-10-2021 10:17 AM

Although Iíd LOVE a much-needed haircut, I believe there is a reason salons are closed here in California. For me, this is exactly the the issue you raised recently when you were trying to figure out how to gain access into a tier to be vaccinated sooner than the one where you belong. I think sometimes we have to think of the greater good. Yes, Iíd like to be vaccinated and get a haircut, but I remind myself that people are dying and I need to shut up and do what I can to contribute to the common goal. If that means others are vaccinated before me and my hair looks terrible, so be it. JMO

anabel12 01-10-2021 09:49 AM

My hairdresser said that she wouldn't be cutting hair at home. Not risking her license. I don't think CA will be open until the summer. Our numbers are too high. My hair's a mess!

Gogogo 01-10-2021 09:44 AM

Isnít going to go to a different tier while LA and other counties have 0 percent capacity in the ICUs.

Keltikmom 01-10-2021 09:16 AM

As the death toll rises, not anytime soon.
As to hairdresser, yes, many will come to your house or do it in their yard. Keep in mind, though, if the licensing board finds out, they can have their license revoked. The Cosmetology Board and Dept. of Health are really strict on the cleanliness and hygiene of salons.

knitting987! 01-10-2021 08:14 AM

Ok Iíll ask my neighbors for some phone numbers. I think it will be at least through the summer until the numbers some way down. Maybe for the next year.

MalloryJames 01-10-2021 07:16 AM

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what the previous poster said....contact your hairdresser (or ask your friends if they know someone) if they will cut your hair for you. I have done this in the past when our buisnesses were shut down after hurricanes. Your hairdresser still has bills to pay and will be happy to take your cash. You can always wear your masks and sit outside while you get your hair taken care of.
This is what we have been doing. One of my family is a hairdresser and we just do it on the back porch.
stella.ivey 01-10-2021 06:43 AM

what the previous poster said....contact your hairdresser (or ask your friends if they know someone) if they will cut your hair for you. I have done this in the past when our buisnesses were shut down after hurricanes. Your hairdresser still has bills to pay and will be happy to take your cash. You can always wear your masks and sit outside while you get your hair taken care of.

nickelbackfan 01-10-2021 03:18 AM

Has it been close this whole time?

Oh my...canít imagine what my hair/kidsí hair would look like.

I think Iíd find someone to do it at home.

knitting987! 01-10-2021 01:20 AM

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