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Old 01-13-2018, 05:46 AM
 
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If there's one thing that grinds my gears, its people that wanna meddle with my affairs. Yesterday, I had a student asked, "Well, why do we need to use your pass? Mr. Normal Teacher doesn't let us use our pass" and I feel like, I should've given my reason... I don't know if you know about old age but it's for me not for the kid.

And then it opens into a can of worms and then it becomes a class discussion and we're off task! Nothing that those things happened because I just said it's a non-negotiable.

On a different note, I'm just glad that the regular teacher gave a fair warning but I had a feel that he didn't get to write what he really wanted as part of the plan. It's okay because the morning went well without that part of the usual.


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It feels like a lot students these days aren't taught to respect subs, or adults in general for that matter.

Many are coddled and told they can do as they please with no consequences.

Therefore, they get to call the shots, and take advantage of this fact.

I call it "inmate running the asylum effect," or "junior teacher disorder."

Grinds my gears too. Students should not be allowed to micromanage!

I'm here in the room to enforce order and fairness for all. A student not liking a pass system or how I do attendance is the least of my concerns.

I follow the rules of administrators and teachers I'm subbing for, and that's it!

Student opinion on my style of classroom management is ignored, unless they're being helpful and trying to assist with important matters, like safety or protocol for classwork.

They are not administrators or junior teachers, despite what they believe.

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Old 01-24-2018, 06:30 PM
 
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It feels like a lot students these days aren't taught to respect subs, or adults in general for that matter.
I subbed in a Kindergarten class on Friday. Ran into the kids today (Wednesday). A 6-year-old looked at me, rolled his eyes, and said "YOU AGAIN?"
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I call it "inmate running the asylum effect," or "junior teacher disorder."
Don't get me started. A lot of school policy is misguided on this very point and the kids quickly figure out how much power they have in the grand scheme of things. I've had plenty of discussions with teachers, so it's not just us poor lowly subs who suffer. We're living and working in a risk management society that can make us stupid.

On the flip side, I think our (schools, teachers) responsibilities have morphed from teaching the "three R's" to teaching kids how to grow up, discover personal responsibility, what's appropriate when, etc. The challenge is to do that without annoying them enough so their helicopter parent complains to admin and/or the school board. That's when we learn who the real inmates are.

In fairness to the kids, they haven't developed filters and very often have limited social skills. That's not totally their fault. In some ways, we need to try to feel compassionate instead of annoyed. And I don't totally blame parents, by the way. Our society, social media, etc. are all influencing this issue. We are, to borrow the earthy analogy, shoveling crap against the tide with a very small shovel.
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