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Different work assignment when you get there
Old 09-19-2018, 06:56 PM
 
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I hate when a teacher doesn't have their change of position on aseop
I put in for a title 1 and when I got there it was a 1st grade. I don't mind 1st grade they are cute but I was looking forward to title 1 just pulling groups. The day went well and the only bad thing that happened is a little girl tried to cut her eyelash and she succeeded and there was a lot of blood and of course I sent her to the nurse. She came back with an ice pack. The girl told me her k teacher had taken away her scissors because she cut her hair
What do u think of that ???


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oh my that's crazy
Old 09-20-2018, 07:02 AM
 
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I have gone to many sub jobs that said one thing and then I get there and the secretary blind sides me and puts me in a total opposite position that i would have never chosen in the first place. But, I'm used to it. It happens a lot and if it's not a totally different position than it's covering different classes to help out.

The pay is low enough when we pick the job we want but definitely not worth the hassle when they "assign" you to something you would have never signed up for. This is why I dislike subbing so much.
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It's a downside of the job
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Sounds like your "switch" to 1st grade wasn't too bad. But I agree that it's rough when you show up expecting one thing only to get what feels like a complete "bait and switch."

I haven't had to deal with that too much, fortunately. Sometimes, it happens because they don't update the system when there are changes. In one case, I showed up expecting to teach Kindergarten only to find out it was actually 4th grade! I was concerned because I prefer K-3rd, but turned out to be a nice 4th grade class, so I didn't mind.

More recently, I arrived at a school to teach 3rd grade, looked at the lesson plans and discovered it was 4th grade. Then just as I finished reading through the Lesson Plan and making notes, the office called and told me there had been a mistake (due to office error) and the class had been given to the teacher's favorite sub per the teacher's request! (Seriously?) The office assured me they had "plenty of work" for me to do so I could get paid. It turned out to be a ton of student emergency information forms that they wanted checked off and filed in binders. They stuck me in a corner of the library to do this ALL DAY!

I was frankly angry and debated about just leaving, but to "stay on good terms" I did about 3 hours of work (as much as I could tolerate) and then left. I got 1/2 day's pay to do tedious clerical work when I had driven nearly 2 hours round trip for a full day teaching job! Would I do it again? No.

Honestly, it was a clerical error on their part, so I believe I should have gotten a full day's pay due to their negligence. But it is what it is. As another poster said, we get paid little enough. We are at least entitled to be choosy about what work we're willing to do!
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I have been told that the teachers/secretaries in my district can't change the grade level listed on Aesop even if the teacher switches grade level. They have to submit the request to the district office and sometimes it just doesn't get done.

As for blood in a 1st grade class, I can imagine that caused chaos with the rest of the class. If the student had done something similar I would want the teacher to leave me a note saying NOT to give that child scissors. But who thinks a kid is going to cut her eyelashes and end up cutting her eyelid???
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I recently took a job at a different school from where I usually sub because I recognized the teacher's name from way back when I first started subbing. At that time she was at a different school from where the job was listed, but I loved her and I like kindergarten. But I could see in the job announcement that there was a message attached so I clicked "get info". Turns out she's now teaching 1st grade but the system still shows kindergarten. She was nice enough to put that info in her job listing. I took it anyway because it's a Title I school and those classes are so much easier than at a non-Title I school.

Personally I would never take a job at a school I didn't know without checking on the teacher to be sure it's the grade that the system says it is. I do that by just going to the school's website and looking it up. Easy.

That's different though from arriving at the school and being pulled to do another job. I do a lot of subbing for the reading specialists at my school, so since they don't have a classroom (they do push-in and pull-out, and if they're not there and there's no sub those pull-out kids just stay back in their regular class) their subs are the first to be pulled if there's a classroom that is uncovered. It's annoying but I guess they do have to cover the classrooms first.


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Old 09-21-2018, 10:47 PM
 
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RSP jobs are my favorites, but I know in advance there is about a 25% chance I will be pulled into a regular classroom due to a sub shortage.

It is quite common for teacher grade levels to be outdated. This probably happens about 10% of the time.

I took a six day job spread out over six months last year that was listed as 3rd grade. It turned out the teacher switched to Kindergarten. Her job did not get updated until the middle of the year. Some jobs are not updated even after two years.
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Happened to me the other day...
Old 10-17-2018, 09:39 PM
 
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I accepted a middle school art assignment well in advance and looked forward to it. I arrived early, checked the plans, and was all set to go. Literally two minutes before the morning bell rang, the school secretary phoned the room and told me she was switching me to computers. I do not enjoy subbing in computers because I have to spend the entire time making sure kids are on task and not playing games, not watching videos, etc. I would not have accepted the assignment had I known, and I did not appreciate being jerked around that way. Goes with the territory, unfortunately.
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Old 10-28-2018, 11:29 AM
 
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I subbed this past week in a HS credit recovery class (1/2 day). 6th hour I was called to the office (teacher's planning period). I was told I was to cover gym class. I just went with it. I know there is a possibility of change each day, it's part of the job..
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subs are cheap
Old 10-28-2018, 02:17 PM
 
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I went to a middle school awhile back for the first time. I had exchanged emails with the teacher previously. When I got there they put me in special ed. I told them that if I had known I wouldn't have taken the job. I told them that I had already had contact with the teacher. I heard them give my assignment to a different sub. I was irritated, but I thought that "things happen" and I would give the school another chance because maybe it was a one-time thing. Someone told me that this happened because they gave the better assignment to the sub that had been there longer - but I don't know.

I don't think that these kinds of things are "part of the job" because I've worked at 3 other schools and this has never happened, not even once - I've never even been asked to cover a different class during a prep - I've always been given my prep in the 3 other schools.

I was also asked to supervise the two breaks, which means that I worked all day, until lunch, without a single minute of me-time - I'm not a spring chicken, anymore. I had to work until the second lunch before having a break.

What I think is going on is that the school is trying to save money by working the crap out of as few subs as possible. Given the meager pay that subs make, I think they should pay an "extra" sub to give the given subs some relief.

I was still going to give the school another chance because it may have been a one-time issue, but then I had other problems (including reporting a bullying incident and was told that "it is normal behavior"), so I never went back. That school has issues and I still think that subs should be given the job they signed up for, unless an issue has come up - it is part of respect. They could at least give us the respect of ASKING us, instead of TELLING us - we're going to say yes, anyway. Like the other poster said, "I vote with my feet," and that is what I did. I never went back.

I think some people think this sort of thing is normal, probably because of their limited experience, but I assure you that there are schools that don't do this sort of thing. I suggest that you vote with your feet, also.
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switches
Old 10-29-2018, 03:55 AM
 
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I think there are three kinds of switches, and I feel differently about each of them -

1) I sign up for a SPED pull-out or creative arts class, and end up in a regular classroom. - This is because they didn't get enough subs, and they have to cover the regular classroom, but can get away without doing pull-outs for the day. I find this annoying but understandable. I know the risks when I take those.

2) I sign up for a regular classroom, and end up in a self-contained SPED room I may or may not be qualified for, or a regular classroom with a bad rep. If there's no explanation, it's a bait-and-switch - and if the day goes badly, I'll remember it the next time there's jobs at two different schools. (A couple of times, though, a secretary asked me privately to switch because the other sub was very new. I felt better about that, because I didn't want the new person to drown and leave!)

3) Clerical error - two subs booked for the same room, system not updated for new grade, etc. I'll brush it off if it's very infrequent, but if it keeps happening, it's a sign the office is understaffed, and I'll get a little nervous about booking there.


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