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Old 07-30-2019, 03:17 AM
 
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This year we are having Meet the Teacher on August 29. We go back to school on September 9 because of a construction delay. Anyway, MTT is in the evening. My question is this. Does anyone else have their MTT outside of school hours and Not get compensated? Our union is recommending that we go but keep track of our hours. In the past this event has been days, evenings,or on the first in service day with no compensation.


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Back to School night is August 27, and school does not begin until September 3.

Personally, I like this. Teachers are already back for inservice and meetings several days before this, so most rooms are already set to begin the year. Students bring their school supplies that night, and parents help get these things organized so the first day of school is not spent organizing supplies.

After Back to School night, teachers have off until the first day of school unless they have to continue doing prep for the first week.

On the day of Back to School night, teachers do not have to be at school until 10 a.m. when usually it is 8 a.m. Those two hours are compensation for staying two hours beyond the school day for that evening.
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We have three mandated evenings
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of understanding includes 10 hours beyond scheduled time at the principal's discretion. This is for BTS night, special programs, faculty meetings or whatever. Our contract is for 200 days. Kids have 180 days. We have 7 days pre-service and some work days and PD days in there. But less than 200 days altogether, so it evens out.
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Any of our evening hours are in our contract.

It should be in your contract that you are there and compensated at a flat rate.


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Old 07-30-2019, 04:01 AM
 
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When I was teaching our contract required that we attend two after school events. Most teachers used it for Back to School night and parent conferences. Anything beyond the two events was optional.

Meet the Teacher was held in the afternoon of one of the professional days before school started, so it was during our regular duty day.
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Ours is at night pretty early into the school year. We get no compensation for it. It is a past practice.
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Old 07-30-2019, 04:26 AM
 
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At one time we did it without pay. Now it is a 1/2 day of our contracted hours.
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Old 07-30-2019, 05:25 AM
 
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Wow- thatís nice to be paid for work outside of contract hours 😂

Weíre a non-union state and have a really really general line about other responsibilities outside of contract hours. This is how our Ps get away with anything they want (like keeping us past contract hours every single day because they canít handle dismissal correctly).
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:10 AM
 
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I believe it’s voluntary for us to attend, but pretty much everyone does. I went last year the day Mason was released from the hospital. The pressure to attend is incredible. It’s “voluntold”.


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Old 07-30-2019, 06:11 AM
 
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Our is during the day BUT-MTT is separate from back to school night. MTT is just a chance for the kids to come in, meet you, find their desk and their cubby and here about how/where to line up. Sometimes parents also give you a front loaded heads up about something that might not be in their file. This is during paid teacher in-services time

Then a week later we have back to school night, at night . WE vomit all the information on parents that they need to know so we wont have a million questions later (ha they still do or they "forget" what you told them). This is part of our contract under additional duties.

Then we have one evening conference night in November that is also required by our contract.

Then we have open house night in the spring.

3 required night events. blech I hate night events.

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Our contract allows up to a certain number (I think it's 3) of extended hour days as part of our salaried work hours. Beyond that, we fill out a time sheet. BtS, Open House, and one other event per year is the norm.
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Old 07-30-2019, 07:59 AM
 
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Ours is a few days before school starts. It is mandatory and we are not compensated for it. Our 4 nights of parent teacher conferences earns us the Friday off of the week of conferences. We have 2 sets each year. We always end up working longer than we are paid for. We do get to leave 15 minutes early every Friday, this maybe how they view we are being paid.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:18 AM
 
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We are not obligated to attend to anything before the first day of school. Some teachers don't even go in to set up their rooms. No staff meetings can be called.

Attendance at staff meetings Is not obligatory throughout the year. Although most of us do attend. I've missed some due to other commitments. Everyone does.

We have a curriculum night about 3 weeks in. Not obligatory but again, most if not all teachers attend. It's in our own best interests to.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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We have 1 In-service day before school starts. Our MTT is that night. We are not compensated. The year that we were in horrible contract negotiations, not one teacher came. We were very close to striking and had the parent support. Typically we go out for dinner between the end of the day and MTT.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:22 AM
 
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Ours is August 1. First contract day is August 5 with kids August 6.

It is always outside of contract hours.
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Old 07-30-2019, 10:24 AM
 
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We also have three days in our contract that we are required to stay into the evening however my principal lets us leave early the following day to kinda make up for it.
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Old 07-30-2019, 10:58 AM
 
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Yes, itís in the evening every year. Iím in a state without unions.
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Old 07-30-2019, 11:30 AM
 
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Like GreyhoundGirl, I believe ours is voluntary, but everyone comes. It may be an item in our contract, but I donít recall off hand. We arenít really expected to be at any other evening/weekend events (other than one short shift that they encourage us to take during a big festival because it provides much of the money the PTO uses to support us for field trips, classroom magazines).

Additionally, this is one of the things we can get merit pay for at the end of the year.
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:02 PM
 
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Ours us always at night early in the school year. We are contractually obligated to attend.
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Old 07-30-2019, 02:29 PM
 
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Evening activities were always built into our contract.
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Old 07-30-2019, 02:31 PM
 
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My old school did it in the first couple of weeks of the school year (so early February).

My current school doesn't do one. We're small enough and part of the community so you usually meet any parents you didn't know before in the first couple of days, anyway.
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Old 07-30-2019, 02:36 PM
 
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Ours is in the contract. MTT/BTS or whatever we want to call it, Open House in the spring, and one other "night" of our choice. We don't get paid (extra) for those.

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Old 07-30-2019, 03:49 PM
 
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Sometimes our P will let us go in late that day due to the MTT being in the evenings. Most of the time we go in early anyway.

Does the union recommend you not going into your classroom until teacher workdays?
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Does the union recommend you not going into your classroom until teacher workdays?
Once since I have been in a union/district school when we were close to striking they did a recommended zero work for zero pay policy. We were encourage to arrive at our start time and leave at our end time together as group to show solidarity. They suggested we abstain from additional work days in the summer. We were going to show them how much we give and how much we deserve a raise (They refused to give even 1/2 the raise that neighboring district were getting-all of whom already pay more than we do). When we all band together and things dont get done and meetings have to be continued another day it helps them see how important it is for us to be a team and how valuable our time is.
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Old 07-31-2019, 04:43 AM
 
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Our MTT is the night before school starts from 5:30 - 6:30 or so. We do evenings because a lot of parents work and are not able to make it during the day. I actually like it because it is quick, parents want to get home and get their kids ready for the first day and the classroom is neat and clean!

It is in our contracts that we have so many after school commitments.
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Our “Meet the Teacher” event is in the evening on one of the workdays. We have to stay later so we come in a couple of hours later that morning. We are expected to attend a certain number of after school events during the year.
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Ours was always in the evening during the teacher work week before school started. It was usually on a Thursday evening. On that day, we were allowed to leave at lunch and report back around 5 for the start of the "festivities". It was a sanctioned move but our principals all followed the same code phrase. They would come on around 11:30 on Thursday morning and say something like, "I hope everyone has a great lunch and we'll see you this evening at 5:00."

Some teachers stayed and didn't go home, but most were from nearby and so would take a last afternoon off. Nice.

Oh, and this was a state that didn't have any power in their chosen unions.
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