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Old 03-05-2015, 09:26 AM
 
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I recently began subbing after retiring from another vocation. Having been out of the teaching profession since the 1970's, I am appalled at some of the things going on in today's classrooms. Tell me if you agree: I strictly enforce a NO CELL PHONE policy. I slide the desks around so they face forward in neat rows if possible. I communicate to the class that I will do everything in my power to maintain a quiet learning environment. I make it clear that I am in charge today and my rules might not be consistent with those of your regular teacher.

The vast majority are in school to learn. For the other 10%, those bent on disrupting others, they're off to the office and gone-sooner rather than later. It's sad that we have abandoned old principles and, in my humble opinion, it seems we have "improved" the quality out of education. I hope this helps someone.


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And I will also add, it takes a lot of energy to do as you described, especially when regular classroom teachers (who have tons of paperwork and other responsibilities) are not as strict.

I do the best I can without being too forceful. Phone use doesn't bother me unless I am being recorded (which has happened)

It is easier to establish your own principles when it's your class though.
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I always tell the students
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There was a time when cell phones were used exclusively by businessmen, the military, and millionaires. You're lucky to even own one as a 14 years old. Don't take this privilege for granted.

Wish schools would actually enforce rules these days. But they don't.
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Old 03-06-2015, 05:13 AM
 
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I have tried being lenient about cell phone use, but inevitably they become a big distraction. As far as I am concerned now, they are there for emergency contact with the child's parents.
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Old 03-06-2015, 03:03 PM
 
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The vast majority are in school to learn.
I believe that! To that end, I think a "safe learning environment" is one of the most important jobs we have. (We might spend some time trying to define that, though--I think we'd all agree it's about more than kids not getting physically hurt. But it may not mean perfectly quiet.)

Having said that, I don't try to make over a classroom or the regular teacher's rules for one day. In addition to being there to learn, I do think kids are adaptable, but I also think it's easier for me to be somewhat flexible. I sub for two teachers with very different styles: one is extremely disciplined, quiet, etc. The room next door often looks and sounds chaotic. There's a lot of learning going on in both rooms. I've learned to teach in both. (Not saying I don't have my preferences! )


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Thanks for your reply. I would have to respectfully disagree with you. Parents and family know how to get in touch with their kids and administraters can quickly relay a message.
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Old 03-06-2015, 08:03 PM
 
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I have kids in school, one in 5th and one in 9th. It is sad to hear from them about the bad kids taking over when subs are in and running havoc. They have told me for years how horrible the subs are because they let all the kids do whatever they want...and the bad kids run the class. The good kids that want to get good grades quietly put up with it because they feel like they cannot get things changed.

If my kids feel like that, then I feel like I owe it to them, and all the good kids, to enforce the basic rules that you have described. I applaud you for upholding these rules. Thank you and if you sub for my children or anyone one of the millions just like my children, I'm sure they will thank you too.
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I agree with you wholeheartedly
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however, if a substitute came in and rearranged my desks I wouldn't be happy. I am VERY anti-cellphone! It blows me away how lax our society has become, and I am a fairly young teacher. That said, I couldn't handle my room being rearranged. I am slightly OCD
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Old 03-07-2015, 05:55 AM
 
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I hate how the elementary classrooms in our district have those HUGE carpets for the students to sit on and then have all of the desks scrunched together. Take out that carpet! Give the kids some space. All they do on the carpet is get in trouble. All they do with their desks crowded against each other is get in trouble.

I agree with you on re-arranging. If I do alter the room in any way, I always put it back before leaving. But then I always straighten before I leave anyway. I do that for the maintenance crew that will follow that night. All of the schools here stack their chairs too.

I simply try and keep the cell phones under control. My biggest issue is the ipads provided by the schools. Keeping the students off of sites not being used for the assignments. Even then I only monitor if the student is sharing and distracting another student with it.
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