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Old 07-16-2019, 07:56 PM
 
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I just read an article about a district that is working on a gender-neutral dress code. To me, what they have in the draft sounds workable and fair. What do others think?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/...cid=spartandhp


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Old 07-16-2019, 08:31 PM
 
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Seems reasonable.
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Old 07-17-2019, 02:20 AM
 
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I can read the article, but the actual part with the dress code is all blurry on my screen. But it sounds like a good idea.
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That seems perfectly reasonable. I’d love to actually have a dress code! It’s a “battle not worth ending up in the news” over, which I get. But then the kids wear things that really just aren’t appropriate for school. Or public.

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I think it's a great idea. Language and wording is so important. When you have dress codes that addresses boys for two lines, and then you have almost an entire page dedicated to what girls can't wear it sends a bad message, like girls need more "policing." When you address it as gender neutral, it's a fair message towards everyone.


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Old 07-17-2019, 05:35 AM
 
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I think it’s fair. I totally agree without Overlightness, it’s such a double standard that girls need more “policing” than boys.
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Old 07-17-2019, 07:13 AM
 
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Looks good.
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Other than the wording to avoid specifically mentioning “girls’ attire” or “boys’ attire,” I don’t really see what is so remarkable about this. I will say that they are less restrictive than most dress codes, by allowing bare shoulders (with straps), sleeveless shirts, and short shorts. But I still foresee all sorts of dress code debates with students and parents in their future.

And ultimately, it’s still going to be primarily girls who get “dress-coded” (albeit hopefully fewer instances than before) because how many guys do you know who wear short shorts? And because girls’ tops are far more likely to be sleeveless than guys’, and those sleeveless shirts / blouses are likely to lead to issues with the arm hole being too big / not coming high enough into the armpit, and (horrors!) showing glimpses of bra. And then you’re back at square one again, having to define “armpit coverage.”

And “approximately 3-4 inches” is opening themselves up for debate. I envision arguments from students and parents along the lines of “2.75 inches is approximately 3 inches, so doesn’t it fall on the lower end of acceptable? The dress code states ‘approximately’; it doesn’t state that it must be at least 3 inches.” This dress code also carefully avoids mentioning skirts in an effort to be gender neutral. But girls are still going to wear skirts and dresses, and 3-4 inches is not enough coverage for even simple modesty. Even a few inches longer isn’t enough coverage. Every time she leans forward, her underwear will show. I anticipate that continuing to be an issue for this school district.

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Old 07-17-2019, 02:33 PM
 
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That dress code is simple and straightforward and I pretty much agree with it.
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And “approximately 3-4 inches” is opening themselves up for debate. I envision arguments from students and parents along the lines of “2.75 inches is approximately 3 inches, so doesn’t it fall on the lower end of acceptable?
My kid would be the one arguing this and flouting it every day. And I have to say, it is not easy finding stylish girls shorts that have a 3-4 inch inseam. Plus a 2" or 3" inseam looks vastly different on a girl with long giraffe legs than a girl with shorter legs. They'd be better off saying shorts and skirts need to fully cover buttocks or something like that.
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Old 07-17-2019, 02:51 PM
 
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It’s fair and reasonable.


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