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Old 10-06-2018, 04:04 PM
 
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I am teaching 3rd grade in a new district but have taught for 5 years. I have 20 student with 3 severe behaviors (not SPED). Another 10 do not listen to anything I say. 5 of my students want to fight everyone in the room and I am constantly having to stop teaching to put out "fires". I write up students but nothing gets done. My admin blames me because of the behaviors. Very few of the students take the work seriously and want me to do it for them. 19 out of 20 students are below grade level but wont do any work right regardless of how easy it is. I have tried work at the kindergarten through third grade level and nothing changes. I am very overwhelmed.


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Iím so sorry. People will tell you to finish out the year. Iíve done it and 7 years later itís still my biggest regret. If you can afford it, have other options, whatever then I say go for it. You and your health are far more important. Do what you need to do.
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I've subbed in classes like that for one day and I was exhausted and needed an adult beverage by the end of the day.
Run don't walk to the nearest exit
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You are more important than a job do what's best for you
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Old 10-06-2018, 07:53 PM
 
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I'd phone it in ...good luck to you on Monday.
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I agree with Grey to a point. If you can afford it, try private schools. These sort of behaviors aren't tolerated and parents parent.


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I was in this type of situation. Admin did nothing. I taught for almost two decades at a few schools. In my last school, I had a class from hell, and my admin, union, and district did nothing to help me. I fought them on my issues, but many of these people were useless. I bailed out of the job. I tried to hang in there but after two years at this place I couldn't take it.

I am subbing now, but I am looking for another district to work in as a regular teacher. Time has passed since that place and it is becoming less relevant on my resume. That's a good thing. I know I will eventually find another school for a permanent position, and I am waiting to jump into the game again.

My next strategy with an unsupportive admin is this when I secure a position. I will not take any cr#p from them. If I only survive a year with the new school, well then so be it. It won't hurt me much if the situation goes bad. I am pretty close to the retirement age and I can sub again and focus on other things.

I will do my best to make things right in the position, but I will not back down if they refuse to assert themselves with parents and students. This is part of the reason schools are falling apart. There's no real management or discipline. I've had a few principals who really did their jobs and would support you, but that was 15 years ago.

Many admin are spineless and either look the other way or blame the situation on others. They blame troubles on the teachers when they should be talking to parents about their responsibilities. They now dodge bullets all day and skate away from problems until they can retire.

Hang in there if you can. Get suggestions from colleagues, friends, councelors, and family. Some admin can give good advice. Approach them cautiously. Yes, live is a game
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Old 10-07-2018, 02:17 AM
 
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That sounds like a terrible situation, and I think you should give notice on Monday. Life is too short to deal with such stress on a daily basis.
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I agree with everyone else. I just did the same thing on Friday. I had an extremely challenging class who would not listen to a word I said and administration kept blaming me. I know many people think teaching in a private school is all sunshine and rainbows, but it's actually the complete opposite. I taught in private for several years and dealt with horrific behavior every day to the point that I was having severe health problems from the stress. Administration would never take action because they were too afraid of offending the parents. If your gut is telling you to leave, then leave.
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Old 10-07-2018, 06:07 AM
 
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I couldíve written this. I just have to find another job first.
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Old 10-07-2018, 06:27 AM
 
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Private schools are not necessarily better because they need the money gained from tuition. Private schools often try to be everything to everybody. I wish you the best and agree - life is too short to be in a miserable situation.


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Old 10-07-2018, 06:31 AM
 
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If I was in your situation, I'd resign. The best teacher in the world will have a hard time in that kind of situation, it appears.

I've learned that BEFORE accepting a position, to make sure they know that I'd like to observe the classroom I'll be working in, even if it's not exactly the same kids, it's better to observe and see what you can try to see. Can prospective teachers NOT do that or they don't really make it a habit of doing so? If not, why not?

Click here to post about observing before you accept:
http://www.proteacher.net/discussion...81#post4572381
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Old 10-07-2018, 07:31 AM
 
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If you have some funds in reserve, then by all means give your notice. As others have said, life is too short, and there are other options. From the description of your situation, being a Wal-Mart greeter would be an improvement. Itís possible to make progress with a difficult class, but if admin doesnít back you up, itís a losing proposition.

Exit with dignity and class, no matter how admin or other staff react to your decision. Be professional, and give a two week notice. Let us know how it goes, and I wish you the very best of luck.
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Resign?
Old 10-07-2018, 07:35 AM
 
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If finances allow, do it! My last year teaching in a Catholic school was miserable. I finished the year, but was totally spent. Do what you need to do.
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Can sympathize, but sorry not much advice
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I'm a career-changer currently doing a year of student teaching with a class that's notorious for being "the class." They don't listen. The teacher has to yell to get them quiet, which works only for a short-time. It's constant noise and movement, along with a child who makes constant animal noises and doesn't stop and beats things off his desk constantly.

I'm not in charge right now; I'll take over for several weeks in the Spring, which has me terrified. I don't think my supervisor will understand if I do like it's done, which is yelling as a means of classroom management. The kids ignore words spoken in a regular voice. They act like they don't hear you. They keep doing what you asked them not to do. It's the strangest thing to have a whole class like that with the exception of a few.

I feel for you, because I'm exhausted the days I'm there and don't have all the responsibilities you have with the class. It makes me wonder if I did the right thing going into education. I've been feeling anxious all the time, which has led to me being put on high blood pressure medication and my doctor thinks I'm getting Irritable Bowel Syndrome. My MD wants me to go to a specialist, but I don't have time or money to do so right now.

I wish I knew what advice to give you. I'm not sure how resigning will impact future employment opportunities. Those can be such difficult decisions! My grandma used to say your health is the most important thing, so it's been difficult to keep going knowing my health has changed and thinking about her words, but if I don't, then I won't graduate after spending all this time and money. And, if I don't finish, my health may still be affected by the financial consequences. I've been torn over how to deal with it, so I can imagine the stress the decision, in itself, is causing. I hope you come to peace with a decision and it all works out for you!
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I quit a terrible position at a very bad school in a very bad district. I was given all the biggest problems of the grade level. Other teachers were apologizing to me it was so bad. It was my first year teaching and I felt the principal was testing me or hazing me. She kept telling me about her terrible first year teaching, no one spoke to her, befriended her, or helped her. She wanted the same for me. I quit and subbed the rest of the year. I was picked up the following year at a great school in a great district. It was the best decision for me and my mental health. If I hadnít I donít think I would be teaching now. If that was teaching I didnít want to do it. Good luck to you. ❤️
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Can prospective teachers NOT do that or they don't really make it a habit of doing so? If not, why not?
When I accepted the job from h-e-double-hockey-sticks last year, it was during the summer. The school seemed great then. I also agree with the PP who said private schools can be rough because admin doesn't want to offend paying parents. All I can say is, yep.
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Have you spoken to your student teaching Liaison about this class and teacher? I feel the reason the students are not listening is because of the yelling and very poor classroom management. Perhaps if your Liaison witnesses the lack of classroom management they will switch you to a class and teacher where you can actually learn how to be a great teacher. I would complain and throw a fit. You are paying for this education and it should be good!!! Go to your Dean of Education! This is supposed to teach you how to do it right, not wrong! Fight!!!
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How do the parents respond / react when you contact them about behaviors? Is that also a dead end street of no support?
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I resigned mid year. Be careful though. Some districts will put a hold on your license.
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Parents listen but don't do anything to help with the problems. Parents contact the principal and complain but don't contact me even though they have all of my contact info for school. I had a parent call the school on Friday and wants me to call her from my personal phone number to talk to her.

My union rep is going to talk to the principal tomorrow to make sure that I won't receive sanctions on my license. The union rep (who has spoken to the principal several times) said that the principal doesn't want me there.
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Old 10-07-2018, 08:58 AM
 
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I had this experience while student teaching. I spoke with my professor and within a day he had me at a new school. Explain the situation to your college coordinator and hopefully you will get a better student teaching experience.
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If you can afford it, and don't need
Old 10-07-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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insurance now, I don't blame you. Even if you can't afford it, I understand. I have a class like that too this yr and A P who is not much help. Bad admin learns to blame teachers for bad behavior. That way they don't have to deal with it. Some admin are kind of stupid too and have maybe drank the Kool Aide . The kids at that school get worse and worse w/out any consequences for their actions.
If you need the money or insurance, I'd call in sick for a few days. ( You are overwhelmed and need the days.) If you have a lot of sick days stashed, don't waste them if you will need the money. A mental health provider can give you a medical note to be out. If you still want to quit then, at least you will have gotten pd a bit for the stress they have put you through. Good luck!! I wanted to add, I feel like quitting too probably 4 out of 5 days of the week. I block it from my head on wkends.
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It's good that you are checking about your license. When did school start for you? Is it recently enough that you could leave this school off of your resume?

I was in a similar position at a school 6 years ago now. I knew right away that it was a dumpster fire. I thought about resigning within the first few weeks so that I could leave it off of my resume, but subbing has always sounded absolutely awful to me, so I figured I would stick it out for the year in a place where I had a good team and a steady paycheck/insurance.

In December I considered applying for other jobs mid-year, but felt like if they had mid-year openings they must have similar issues. My experience is different than other posters, I guess. I really felt that if I left a school mid-year, I'd never find another teaching job again. I felt that I would be seen as a flake or someone who couldn't handle the job. They wouldn't realize how bad things were- especially since you're told not to "be negative" in a job interview.

I resigned in mid-February, effective at the end of the year, before non-renewal decisions came out. P ended up non-renewing every probationary teacher on staff. Because I resigned before I was told anything, I could honestly answer "no" to the question on job applications that asked if I'd resigned in lieu of non-renewal.

I don't regret sticking it out for two reasons. One, it allowed me to keep a "clean" resume and get hired at my current school, which I've been in successfully for 6 years now. Two, for me the "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" thing was absolutely true. I came out of that experience a better teacher and a better person, and I truly learned not to sweat the small stuff. When people at my current school are all up in arms about minor things, I'm calm knowing things could be way worse.

I guess the point of this long winded post is to really think about your plans for the future. Do you plan to teach elsewhere? If so, I'd be asking the union about the legality of leaving this place totally off of your resume.
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we just finished our sixth week of school. The class has been difficult since the first week. The principal has been pulling me out of class without warning to have meetings since the third week. She has already discussed putting me on a growth plan because behavior hasn't improved. I have tried so many different things but the kids don't care about rewards/consequences. I would rather resign now before she decides to put me on a growth plan.
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Now that I have seen the above post
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It sheds more light. I'd use up my sick days and quit after I had no more. Then she can't put you on a plan and if she tries, it will look like she is doing it due to your illness ( overwhelmed is not really an illness, but a reaction to stress...)
Best wishes and things will get better!
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I posted above, but I also agree with Summerwillcom.
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Sending good thoughts your way! Please keep us posted and let us know what you decide!
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