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Old 09-22-2009, 08:49 PM
 
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Boy! did I have a bad day today! I doubt that the teacher will ever call me back. I would be really surprised.
Yesterday and today, I subbed at a high school. The teacher did not leave a lesson plan, I checked at the office and they didn't have one either. So, I went and talked to the teacher next door and she was kind enough to help me out, as were other teachers. Because of that yesterday went fairly smooth, there was some minor misbehaviors but nothing to be concerned with.
Today, Tuesday was a different story. 1st period was taught by another teacher, so that was taken care of. However, 2nd period was my worst nightmare. Since there was no lesson plan left, I had the class review their homework. Alas, that did not take up the whole period. I tried my best to control the class, and I thought that I was doing a good job until one young man poured a bucket of water on a young lady. This young man was misbehaving all period long. That was the last straw. I told him to get out of my class and go to the office( I don't like sending students to the office, because I don't want the principal to think I can't control the class. I am trying to make a good impression because I am using subbing as a way to get a contract position. So I don't want to give the wrong impression) anyway, I wrote down the students name as well as the other students that were misbehaving, and left it in a note for the regular teacher.

I probably won't get called again. How sad!
At least the rest of the day wasn't too bad, some students were chatty however.
What's worse is that I am afraid that this will hurt my chances for procuring a full-time contract position which I have been trying so hard to obtain. I go and ruin it. Boy am I a dummy!



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You just never know....
Old 09-22-2009, 09:33 PM
 
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I had a class like that last year...when I had finally had it, I sent the worst troublemaker (and the mouthiest) to the office. I cringed inside, sure I would be the talk of the school...I was. but only because the offender was the Principals niece, and nobody else had called her on her garbage You just never know.....
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Old 09-23-2009, 05:30 AM
 
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one young man poured a bucket of water on a young lady."
That's assault. I would have done more than simply send him to the office. I would have called security or at least called the office and let them come get him. That would make more of a statement on your behalf. It never should have gotten to that point and your not wanting to send students out is the cause of it. Being afraid to send students to the office is the number one reason new subs have problems. I can guarantee you that "young man" causes problems wherever he goes, including the real teachers, so why do you think he won't cause you problems. They know him and it will not surprise them in the least to see you send him to the office. Look at it from admin's view. They don't hear from you and nobody is ever sent to the office and then BAM, an assault occurs in your classroom. You give them an inch and they take a mile.
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we're too soft....
Old 09-23-2009, 06:11 AM
 
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SOMETIMES.....I agree with Augustus...we're sooo afraid to kick somebody to the curb that it actually smacks us in the face when something goes wrong!!!

I once had to sub for a MS class and the teacher had to leave in a hurry; the teacher didn't know if the meeting was on or not; well it was a go and there really was no time for the teacher to write down a lesson plan.

The note left was just to have 3 periods read from a science book..OOOOHHHH.....well you can guess what happened--total bedlam!!! I even called down to the office to see what time the teacher was coming back and they didn't even know..

I was never called back to sub for the teacher and I'm not sad because for somebody to run out and not leave a plan!!!

As a sub, we have so much CRAP that we have to worry about-----sending somebody down to the office should not be one of them
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cut yourself some slack
Old 09-23-2009, 06:27 AM
 
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It is NOT your job to establish classroom mgmt. If the teacher had good classroom mgmt the kids would PROBABLY not have acted this way to THIS degree. I mean, what can they actually expect when they leave us no plans! I would STOP worrying about whether that teacher would have ME back and leave a note that they are NOT to call me again to work b/c they left no plans and no classroom mgmt. Seriously why are YOU taking on the blame here? Of course, you are the teacher when int eh room and yes it is your job to keep them under control, but the principal shoudl require plans and any teacher who actually give a darn about their class would have plans. My note to that teacher would have looked like this...

Teacher: You left me NO plans. I HIGHLY recommend you prepare some standby plans for when you have to be gone and cannot come to the school to leave a sub plans. You class CANNOT handle working independently and do NOT respect whatever method of behavior mgmt you normally set your standards by. I also recommend that in the event you cannot make it to the school that you take the time to call a fellow teacher to help you out or call the sub and ask for their email so you can email some plans to them.

Seriously, everyone gets sick and sometimes it is nearly impossible to get to the school - we can ALL understand that, but to not call at LEAST another teacher to have them do you a favor shows complete lack of respect for the work a substitute does and for the needs of their class. I woudlnt' go back in that room for double the pay. Seriously. In my dist. a sub is known by her rep and that's how she gets jobs. To have that sort of thing go on b/c there were no plans is ridiculous. And I know, subs are supposed to be prepared, yadda yadda yadda, but really - why? We dont' get paid enough to establish class mgmt or write plans for teachers (at least in my dist) and I wouldn't take a room that made me work that hard. I am there to TEACH not to babysit the naughty kids.

P.S. If they are THAT rowdy I'd call the office and have the students escorted to the principal. JMHO kids you send to the office rarely make it all the way there.


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oh dear!!!
Old 09-23-2009, 11:38 AM
 
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how did the bucket of water get involved?!?!?

I was teaching kindergarten today, the teacher had to leave early. She had an activity where the kids would use watercolors...she asked me if I was brave enough...I said NO! haha, I try to avoid all water situations in the classroom when I can!

Heres a tip...if you sense the class is going to be rough at the beginning of the period. Tell them right of the bat, "I have referrals in my bag, I have the date on them and I have them signed. All I have to do is put your name on them." Then when they misbehave, pull one out and put it on the board (with tape, magnet etc) and tell the offender that this is their one and only warning. If they misbehave again, SEND THEM OUT. You're right, you're not there to babysit...you're there to teach...AND to keep the kids SAFE. Don't allow any unsafe behavior or rude language/disrespect to you or others in the class.
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I agree with Augustus
Old 09-25-2009, 08:42 AM
 
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We should never be afraid to call in the calvary when it comes to classroom behavior. I've called security only once on a class, and security was expecting the call! They Knew the teacher was out; they Knew that the class would be rough; and they Knew that I don't take bull*#&$. Now when I see those kids in the school, they steer clear of me because they know I won't put up with their crap.

Calling security, sending students to the office, leaving a scathing note about a classroom -- these are not signs of a failure on our part. Teachers and admin Need to know how their students are going to behave when under the supervision of a guest teacher, and teachers and admin need to know We are not afraid to ask for help when we need it.
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