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Old 01-13-2010, 01:31 PM
 
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I took a 3 day assignment at a MS that I subbed at quite often last year. The school is close to my house and is considered one of the best in the district, but I always have a problem. Today was no exception.

During my substitute teacher workshop last week, I learned about the different kinds of problem students and how to deal with them, so I tried one of these techniques on a boy who continuously cursed and slammed his hands on the table. I went up to him very calmly and said, " I know you're seeking attention, but I would ask you to stop or else I am going to send you out." I have never actually "sent out" a student before, but I was willing to try something new to keep the classroom a harmonious environment. He was standing up at the time and yelled at me, "No, it's YOU that is seeking attention!" YOU!" I very calmly said, "You're out of here," and I went to call the dean. No answer. That's the only extension I had, so I couldn't call an AP or admin, and there weren't any classes next door to send the student.

He stayed in the class and started ranting and raving about what a ##### I was.


Fast forward to 7th period when I had this class again; the student was still ranting and raving, and he enlisted his friend in my honorable name-calling. At one point, the other boy tried to get my attention by saying, "Hey YOU, GET OVER HERE!" Both boys now drummed on the table and continued on how I was "only a substitute," among some nasty things that I don't want to mention on this board. I called security, who paged the dean on his walkie-talkie. I called him in his office and told him that two boys were threatening me and pounding on the desks. He came in a minute later like a bat-out-of-hell to diffuse another incident involving students throwing books at each other, and quickly left.

Meanwhile, I was trying to get the boy's names, and enlisted the help of a nice student who asked me to be more specific about whom I was referring to. As he was about the tell me, the dean came back in and scolded me for "involving a third party." I apologized to the student for involving him, and the dean mockingly said I could just point out the boys. They became fluxed, then angered. The dean looked at me and said, "Ok, just stop by and file a report in my office," and left. Now, if that isn't fanning the flames, I don't know what is. One of the boys said that the dean wouldn't do anything, because he never does. Nonsense ensues.

It gets better. After my day was finished, I went to the dean and filed my report. I told him that I was concerned for my safety, and that this was a 3 day assignment that I could not continue unless the boys were suspended. He said the best they could would be to change my schedule for the next day. Another teacher I spoke with said he was an ineffective dean and that I should speak directly with the principal. Upon learning that she left for the day, I told the secretary my situation. The secretary said I could either come in tomorrow and know that something would be done to the boys or I could cancel the remainder of my assignment. I told her I needed to cancel, that I couldn't work in a class with students who threatened me while the dean did nothing.


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Old 01-13-2010, 02:58 PM
 
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The dean could have diffused the situation during 2nd period when it was only the one boy acting up. He could have taken the boy outside the class and talked with him, saying, "if the teacher calls me again and I have to come back here....." Even if he did this during 7th period, it would have made me feel a little better. Every other school where I have a problem student, this is the protocol and seems to be effective.

In retrospect, I could have also called security to escort the student out of the classroom, but at the time I still had faith in a dean. They make close to $90K in NYC, yet this one particular dean does a mediocre job. What a shame.
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sounds like the student has a "mental" problem or is it a "authority" problem...to go off like that!!! and then to have the dean not even do anything about it!!!! You're right to back out of this situation (safety first)
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And when I spoke with my mother about it for some sympathy, do you know what she said? She said that if she were me, she would go back so as to show the students that she wasn't afraid of them. She tried to justify the student's behavior, and said that what I described to her was not "threatening" at all, and that I made a huge mistake. A teacher friend of mine thinks that I should write a letter to school superintendent and cite the dean's mishandling of the situation.

Just think I need a relaxing shower and a personal day tomorrow.
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Old 01-13-2010, 09:59 PM
 
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We as subs are not compensated either financially or emotionally to deal with such a situation (not sure if anyone is!)

Sleep in tomorrow, take a long shower, go for a walk, read a book, smash things via a video game - you deserve it.


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I took care of myself today =)
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Off to another assignment tomorrow at a new small school. Did my usual research when going to an unfamiliar location, and I found out the average class size at this school is 19.5; it's 32 at that crazy school. Keeping my fingers crossed that it's a good end to an otherwise chaotic week!
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Cursing? It's all right with the dean if students curse in class? I'd put that school on my
"never again" list.
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Cursing is condoned in that school
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When I made the requested trip to the dean to write my "statement," he was meeting with a troubled student who made claims that he wanted to kill himself, and he didn't like talking with his father about it. Pretty shocking stuff. The dean decided to go into a little speech about when this kid grows up and "you find yourself dean of a middle school and think 'holy ####,' my Dad was right all along."

I think he could have used different language. No wonder those kids are going to get away with calling me a "b####."

Oh, and although I put my number at the bottom of the page next to my signature, the dean never bothered following through with me. What a complete joke!
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