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Old 02-12-2015, 06:53 PM
 
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Next year, our principal has mentioned that our fifth grade will lose a teacher with 103 coming up from 4th. We have had 5 teachers this year with 113 students, and the 4th grade had 5 teachers with this group of kids. I know we have been fortunate with small class sizes, but I was wondering what class sizes are out there for 5th grade?


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5th grade at our school is 27 in most classes, at 28 and above the teacher has to agree and they get an extra stipend for each extra student.
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When I taught 5th three years ago I had 31 students and 10 IEP's. It was a general education class, not special ed. We don't get a say in our numbers at all, and we average 31-34 kids in grades 4-8 at my school.
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Old 02-12-2015, 07:07 PM
 
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Contractually we're capped at 30 in 5th.
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This year each of our 5th grades have 17 students in them. Next year, I think we will have 16 students each.


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Old 02-12-2015, 07:11 PM
 
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In my district we are capped at 34.
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Old 02-12-2015, 07:25 PM
 
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I think CA can go up to 38 in 5th grade, but I'm not sure. My DS is in 5th, and he's been lucky to track in a smaller-than-average grade level. His classes have been ~28 students for the last several years, but that is very unusual here in CA.
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Old 02-12-2015, 07:50 PM
 
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Our fifth grade classes have 28 ish. I have 35 4th graders. 5th could go to 35 as well. I'd give anything to have your numbers.
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Not all of California is as pp described it. I'm in CA; our 5th grade cap is 28, but I agreed to an extra kid this year so have 29 (no extra pay for us ).
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I have 28. I'm fine with it. I like having an even number, and I like being able to make groups of 4 even more.

We're probably going up to 32 in the next couple years. I'm in CA as well.


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Old 02-13-2015, 03:04 AM
 
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Our 3-5 classes are capped at 24. It is rare that we have classes with more than 22. Parents in my district have been very good at petitioning the school board to keep class sizes small.
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Old 02-13-2015, 04:15 AM
 
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we each have 21 5th graders. In 20 years, my largest class has been 27. Typically we are between 23 and 25.
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Old 02-13-2015, 10:02 AM
 
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I have a class of 25 and one of 24. At my old school anything from 16-24 was normal, but they tried to keep them around 20ish...
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Old 02-13-2015, 11:59 AM
 
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There are 4 5th grades this year and the numbers are: 24, 24, 21, 23 students.
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I've worked in different districts, and the cap has always been 38. The state sets the cap, but districts can set a lower cap if they wish, as I understand it.

I've always had 36 to 38 in fifth. I've had as many as 10 sped inclusion amongst the 38.

We can go over 38 if we sign a waiver. Our union has taken a very hard position with us to never agree to sign a waiver.
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Old 02-13-2015, 03:43 PM
 
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I have 24.
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Old 02-13-2015, 04:51 PM
 
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I'm in my 4th year. My first year I only had 18 or 19, my second year I had 26, my third year I had 27, and this year I have 23.
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Old 02-13-2015, 05:07 PM
 
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My 5th grade classes have ranged from 12 (!!) to 27. I've been lucky to never get to 30. Mostly, they were 24-26.
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I'm in Florida where we have a "class limit" amendment but it is stretched to the point where is really isn't followed. I have 26 5th graders, but one I had 18!!! It really does make a difference.
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Old 02-13-2015, 08:06 PM
 
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We have 25 in each. This is on the low end.
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Old 02-14-2015, 05:52 PM
 
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I've never actually heard of an upper elementary (meaning 4th and up) class having less than 24 or 25 (and that's rare!). I can see why there's a big push in primary for smaller classes. I taught first grade with 20 and now teach fifth with 28...honestly, it feels about the same to me. Fifth graders are just so much more independent. The only time I notice how much bigger my class is is when I need to buy things like Valentines or need to schedule conferences.

I do think over 32 is insane, but I've seen it. I student taught in 6th with 34, and I had a few friends student teach in 5th with 36 or 37. It's very common here. High school classes can be over 40 in some areas.

For those of you who have less than 24 in fifth grade, are your primary classes even smaller?? I can't even imagine that.
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Old 02-14-2015, 06:45 PM
 
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I know we have been lucky to be in the 20 - 24 range for 5th. With the group coming, it would be about 27, so not unmanageable I guess.
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Old 02-15-2015, 12:46 PM
 
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34....if we had 28 or less I'd be in heaven...
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Old 02-16-2015, 09:33 AM
 
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33 and growing!
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Old 02-21-2015, 11:54 AM
 
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Our 5th grade classes this year have between 25 and 30 (6 classes). Some of our 4th grade classes have 34. When I taught 5th grade, the highest I ever had was 28.
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:56 PM
 
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I usually have 30 - 31. This year, our group is smaller and I only have 26.
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in my private Catholic School. I had 19 - now 18 because one moved and my partner has 18.

I feel very, very fortunate.
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