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Old 08-05-2019, 06:57 AM
 
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I am going into a new school this year and want to make a good impression. I am coming in highly recommend with a long track record of successful teaching experience behind me. Early duty schedules have been posted and I have been given a morning outside duty twice per week. I hate outside duties no matter where they are just because of dealing with the weather in the winter that often makes me sick. Iíve fallen before, gotten drenched and generally find it to be a bad start to my day as I have to begin teaching immediately when it is over with no time to get myself together. The duty schedule we got said they would change for us if we had a conflict, but none of those reasons sound good enough to me. My question is, can someone help me formulate a way to word my question? I donít mind morning duty at all and there are many indoor spots I could switch for. I just donít know how I might be perceived to a principal if I were to ask. What do you all think? Should I ask or deal with it? And if I should ask, can you help me out with my wording? FYI- School begins in a couple of weeks. Thanks in advance!


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This probably would have been handled better before assignments were given out. Can you find a colleague to switch with you, and then go to your principal with the proposal?
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Honestly, I think you just need to do the morning duty as assigned. You’re new at the school and it’s only 2 days out of the week. I am sure others assigned to the same duty aren’t thrilled either.

Get yourself a big umbrella, warm hooded long coat, and rain/snow boots. Been there, done that. Get that first year under your belt then see what happens.

Congratulations on your new job.

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I would start with the duty and enjoy the opportunity to greet the kids and parents cheerfully and get to know the population of your school. That's what will make a good impression.

Later on, when you've established yourself, you may find that outdoor duty rotates, or that you're in a sheltered area, or be in a better position to ask to trade duties.

But start out being a team player.
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:30 AM
 
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Being outside makes you sick? Iíd love the fresh air...


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Old 08-05-2019, 10:33 AM
 
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Iím sorry, but to complain about a duty spot that you truly know nothing about is ungrateful. Be thankful for the job, at some point everyone gets duty positions they donít like.
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I had much rather have outside duty then inside duty. Just cannot imagine being in the cafeteria with morning duty, or hall duty.

Of course, this comes from the person who would rather have car duty for a year, than bus duty for one afternoon.

Personally, I would just go with the flow this year.
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Old 08-05-2019, 11:22 AM
 
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I had morning duty every morning for several years. You are new to the school. I suggest you don't complain. You will sound entitled. If you have a genuine medical reason, that's different. But it sounds like you just don't like it. Maybe you will be able to switch it later, but I wouldn't start out complaining. No one likes morning outside duty.
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The only thing I would add to her perfect advice is to get a pair of yak traxs to slip on your shoes when dealing with icy weather.

As the new person on the team just hope you don't get all the really special snowflakes in your class. That could happen and divert your attention from the morning duty.

I do feel your pain. One morning I helped with car pool duty. Suddenly a gust of rain hit us. My shoes became drenched. I spent the rest of the day in borrowed socks covered with baggies so I could wear my shoes. It looked funny and sounded funny but it worked!
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Old 08-05-2019, 01:48 PM
 
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about outside duty is that you just greet and shoo them into the building. Very little crowd control or student management. You get to smile, wave, say good moring, have a great day! Maybe tease them about why they're wearing pajamas to school on pajama day.

Of all the duties I could have had last year, I loved my outside morning duty. Even in the rain and cold.


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Old 08-05-2019, 02:23 PM
 
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Doesn't sound like fun at all. But, you're new. You have to suck it up and do your time.
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Old 08-05-2019, 02:25 PM
 
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I agree with those that say, take your duty like all staff are assigned to do. You will not be perceived positively if this is what you are starting the year off complaining about. You have no idea what else is coming that you truly may need your P on your side for. Our P would have switched it but remember that you came and asked. Most inclement weather days, were moved inside anyway.

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Old 08-05-2019, 02:36 PM
 
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Honestly, probably no one enjoys morning or afternoon duty. But itís just part of it. Iíve had morning duty outside every morning for the past four years. Iíve also had afternoon duty outside every day for the past five years. Morning duty lasts 35 minutes and afternoon duty lasts 30-45 minutes. Do you know what I would give to only have morning duty outside twice a week??
I think you just have to deal with it. Prepare for the weather and do it.
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Old 08-05-2019, 03:41 PM
 
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As a newbie, I'd think you just better accept it and make the best of it. It will make you more organized and you'll have to get your classroom all ready before you start your shift. Is there any chance that you could suggest they rotate jobs? At my old school, they made a whole new schedule halfway through the year and so other teachers got a turn with the less desireable jobs. Good luck!
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Old 08-05-2019, 04:09 PM
 
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Unless you have a specific health concern that prevents you being able to do an outside duty, I think you should just do it.

Funny story, sort of. My friend didn't like doing recess duty for some of the reasons you put down. She did have some major health things (RA), but before our new p, she always just got what she wanted. People were nice and let her do the duty under the carport in the time slot that was shortest... new P had different ways and my friend ended up with recess duties. After going to the p and asking her to change it, she ended up having to get a 504 for any physical stuff - which also meant she couldn't go on the field trips she liked to go on (because if she can't walk up to recess, then she can walk into the ball stadium! ) . It was a long process, which required meetings and health documentation that she wasn't really looking for - but she dug the hole.
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Old 08-05-2019, 04:37 PM
 
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If you want to be taken seriously at your new school, you will bundle up and take the duty. No one likes morning duty but everyone has it. Part of the job.
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Suck it up. I do duty in the morning on the playground with 250 kids all by myself. It was 95 degrees at 8:15 this morning and it sucked. But that's part of the job. You do what you gotta do. Take care of yourself (I wear a hat, bring my iced coffee and a spray bottle of water to mist myself) and hang in there.
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Old 08-05-2019, 04:54 PM
 
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Since you're new to the school, I wouldn't say anything. Unfortunately, that's the downside of being the newbie. The great thing is, hopefully you won't have it again next year - it'll be given to the next newbie.

I agree to just plan accordingly. Right now the weather should be wonderful. After it gets cooler, just bundle up. Hats and gloves will help a lot. Raincoats, boots, and umbrellas will help with the rain.

If you truly want to make a good impression, just roll with it. IF someone mentions loving that duty post, THEN you can talk about switching with them. But I wouldn't bring it up otherwise.
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Old 08-05-2019, 05:44 PM
 
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I have a tiny sign ny my desk at work that says "Suck it up Buttercup." I am Buttercup.

Get a good umbrella, raincoat, etc. Keep a spare pair of socks and slip ons of some kind at work for awful, wet days. Smile through it all, then ask at the end of the year if duties rotate at all. We all do things we don't want to do for the good of the group.
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I just retired, but in my school we line up our own kids outside in the morning, supervise our own class at recess, and bring our own class outside at dismissal time for parent pick up (the few bus kids go with specialists).

Honestly, I always bought my winter coats and boots with thoughts of what was best for morning duty, recess, and dismissal duty.

If you want to make a good impression, just do your duty with a smile on your face. Maybe the duty rotates. Maybe teachers who are pregnant, have medical concerns, or have more seniority get the indoor duty. Who knows.

FYI... winter weather doesn't make people sick. Germy kids sitting in close quarters all day with no fresh air. That will make you sick!
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Old 08-05-2019, 06:33 PM
 
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Morning duties outside suck. Iím not a morning person, and morning duty requires me to be at work 15 minutes early. I hate it. I had it for almost four months last year. I sucked it up.

I did ask to switch an outside afternoon duty that out me in the sun for an extended period. I take medicine that makes me sun sensitive. Iíve also taught there for 25 years.
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It took me 4 years to get the duties I prefer (dismissal). When I was new I sucked it up which is probably what you should do too.

I got my preferred duties one by one by asking teachers if they would like to switch. Then we would email the P and her know we switched. Then the next year I was just given that duty again.

All of our duties are outside which, I totally agree with you, sucks the big one. Mornings though are by far the worst though (I am NOT a morning person).

Look on the bright side-you only have 2 duties. Thats less than we have at my school.
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Old 08-05-2019, 07:51 PM
 
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I agree that you need t take the duty you were assigned. It wouldn't look good to ask your P to change and first impressions are lasting. We've all had our share of less than desirable duties. It goes with the territory.

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Old 08-06-2019, 03:35 AM
 
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Deal with it.

IMO, the reasons you listed are not legitimate reasons to switch.
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I hate outside morning duty too. I don't know a teacher who loves it here. Wind, rain, snow, cold, heat-- what fun!

Somebody has to do this duty. Most places alternate duties yearly so you are not stuck with it forever. Some duties are worse than others. Next year you might find you yearn for the outside duty you had.
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I think this is a "suck it up, Buttercup" type of thing. Not wanting to and not being able to are two different things.

It is a bad way to start your day because you make it a bad way to start your day. Think of it as a time to set off students' days in a great way. Greet the students and smile!

I have been at my school for 14 years and I still get stuck with the Monday morning outside duty. It's not my favorite, but I do it.
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I was a noon aide. One teacher complained about being outside.

She got assigned to crowd control in the cafeteria during lunch.

BWAHAHAHA! I'd rather have the sweet release of death.

Unless you have an ADA addressable issue (mobility/immune system issues), you may just have to lump it.
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I hate being outside also. I like the idea of just doing it and then trying to trade with someone who loves the "fresh air." I wouldn't complain to the principal yet

I'd just say something causal to people like, "Hey, I am not really an outdoor person, do you know anyone who would want to trade duty with me?"

Best of luck at your new school!
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Only bring it up if you have a documented medical condition that prevents you from performing the duty. I have Raynaudís, and my doctor will sign anything I need to prevent me from an outdoor duty between October and April.
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Old 08-06-2019, 11:21 AM
 
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I would suck it up for now, and then when you hear someone else complain about their duty, offer to switch.

Then you look even more like a team player than you already do for taking the duty with a smile in the first place, and you both get what you really want in the end.

(Somebody out there does love to be outside. - I'd choose it over cafeteria duty any day!)
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I can understand your not wanting morning duty.

Let's look on the bright side!
*It's only a couple of days a week.....could be every day.
*You could have lunch recess duty (unless you really like that one)
*You get to see the kids first thing in the morning!

You are new to this particular school. If outside morning duty was an issue for you, then it should have probably been mentioned at your interview (that is my thought).

Go ahead and do the duty with a smile. Find the positives about it, and then later if you can trade duties, offer to do so. Be a team player from day one and it will benefit all in the end.

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Are you coaching for an additional 2.5 hours each day? No?

Are you otherwise taking on extra duties? Time intensive clubs? No?

Then you should do the Nike method. Just do it.
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