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Would you take an $18,000 pay cut?
Old 07-27-2015, 04:49 PM
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Current job: inner city, hard core, drug busts outside of the school at least four times a year, students have been murdered, etc. been there 19 years and cry on a weekly if not daily basis because sometimes it's all just too hard

Job offer: suburban school, affluent community, students all come with school supplies and clothing appropriate for the season, would be an $18,000 pay cut. Would have more parental involvement but that could also mean helicopter moms

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Old 07-27-2015, 04:52 PM
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Depends on my financial situation. If I could swing it without too many cuts I would! Life is too short to be in tears every day.
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Old 07-27-2015, 04:56 PM
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Your mental health is much more important than the amount of your pay check. I would switch in a heart beat. I'm sure helicopter moms would be a piece of cake compared to what you've been through.

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Old 07-27-2015, 04:56 PM
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I agree with PEPteach, but also find it sad that an "affluent community" would pay their teachers so much less than where you are now.
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Old 07-27-2015, 04:58 PM
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I have to say that if I could swing the pay cut I would most definitely take it.

i would not want to feel the way you feel on a daily basis. As PEPteach said "life is too short to be in tears everyday".

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Old 07-27-2015, 04:59 PM
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We just hired someone who did, but we're figuring with her Masters and years of experience, it's more like a $30,000 pay cut.

I took a $9,000 pay cut when I started at my current position. Worth it.
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Old 07-27-2015, 05:00 PM
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I honestly couldn't take it because I'm a single mom. However, if you can do it then go for it.
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Agree with PEPteach
Old 07-27-2015, 05:01 PM
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Being a teacher is more than just the hours you spend in a building. That kind of stress that you are talking about probably affects you physically, emotionally and spiritually outside your work hours. I took a $8K cut that I really couldn't afford but it was so worth it. Amazing how my outlook on life changed and I actually starting growing back hair that I didn't realize I was losing due to stress. Sometimes cutting back on expenditures is so worth it if it improves your quality of life!
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Old 07-27-2015, 05:02 PM
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but there is not enough information here.
Is the suburban school close to where you live or farther away. Transportation is expensive and you need to add that to your decision.
Will the cut in pay move you to a lower tax bracket? One of our teachers got a raise and then took home a lot less money because of taxes and the increase in the amount she had to pay for health insurances-thanks to Gov. Christie.
Will you lose tenure and is the school you are moving to granting almost all teachers tenure after 3 years. (ours does)
Look at the entire pay scale, will you be making more in a few years or will you be at the top and not receive any substantial pay raise again.

Unless financial hardship, then yes move to a different school district. Your health both physical and mental is taking a hit because of the stress.
I think you might want to try the suburban school. You may love it, it may not be your cup of tea. If your inner city is like ours you can always go back, there seems to always be openings even in the middle of the year.
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Old 07-27-2015, 05:13 PM
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I have enjoyed my job in the inner city. It is very rewarding and I would not ever consider working in the suburbs.


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Old 07-27-2015, 05:16 PM
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about 11,000 less than I did at my last job.

However, I am much happier. I have a better commute, a shorter day, and a better administration. Even though it's less money, I sleep an hour later every morning and come home earlier everyday. It was worth it.
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Old 07-27-2015, 05:18 PM
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If you can swing it, I would.
Actually, I took a $12,000 cut for my current position and it was the best thing I could have done for myself!
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Old 07-27-2015, 05:20 PM
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Need more information.
--distance/travelling time
--job security
--pension implications
--charter/private school vs public school
--What percent of your pay does $18000 represent? (I don't want to know, but you need to know)
--how many more years to retirment

After 19 years there is so much more to consider than just the pay cheque.
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Old 07-27-2015, 05:22 PM
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Do it, because I am the major breadwinner. But my district pays quite well and it is pretty affluent.
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Old 07-27-2015, 05:57 PM
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Here's more information:

*Closer to home. Would cut 10-15 minutes off my commute one way.

*It does not affect my tax bracket or my tenure.

*Job security is fairly high. No lay offs in the last 20 years. I do have to ask however if there are staff reductions if I'm considered low man and would be laid off.

*Both are public schools

*Wouldn't really affect my pension, but we are looking at retiree healthcare and how that would all transfer over

*I can technically retire in 10 years

*Current district will most likely be taken over by the state before I can retire.
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Old 07-27-2015, 06:35 PM
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Seems to me you answered your own question with a yes. Good luck in your new position. Our mental health is the most important thing since it effects everything else.
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Old 07-27-2015, 07:17 PM
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It is a personal choice based on several factors that may affect your decision-spouse income, additional income, bills, distance, etc.

I have only worked in inner city schools by choice, because I truly enjoy it.

I have received several offers to go to affluent schools, but decline each offer.

I would be miserable in an affluent school.
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Old 07-27-2015, 07:25 PM
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if you can afford it financially, then do it. Even if it means you can't go out to eat as much as you would like.

However, if the $18k means you can't pay some bills then I wouldn't switch.
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Old 07-27-2015, 07:33 PM
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When I moved to AZ from IL I lost about $7,000 and that was 20 years ago. Plus I started over even though I had 13 years in IL. I am so glad we did. My DH worked road construction and was laid off in the winter while I was off in the summer. Better family life out here. Plus I don't miss the snow. I would definitely change to the better school. If the state takes over the school you have to do more paper work, state visits and data collection. UGH!
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Old 07-27-2015, 07:38 PM
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With what you have added about distance etc, I'd have to encourage you to do it. The quality of your life will go up $18K worth if you have less stress and are happy. Good luck.
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Old 07-27-2015, 08:37 PM
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The extra information seems to be pushing towards a "make the move" direction.

Next thing --- can you figure out some way to make up the $18,000?
Teach night school?
Reduce all household expenses by 10%?
Rent out your basement? (I just watched a couple episodes of Income Property -- there's money to be had. )
Car pool?
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Old 07-27-2015, 08:54 PM
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I would do it! You have spent 19 years helping those inner city children and families and now its time to do something a lot less stressful! Being in tears on a regular basis is not good for you mentally or physically! Let us know what you decide to do.

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Old 07-27-2015, 09:39 PM
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I've taken about a 15,000 pay cut to relocate from a city to suburban an hour away....

Although rent is higher in that city, I can tell u I felt A Lot more comfortable w my money there... I feel like I can't survive on my own now & want to become a principal....
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:35 AM
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I have taken pay cuts to change districts twice. Both times the move was worth it!!! It sounds like your situation might make it so, if you can afford it. Good luck with your decision!!!
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:57 AM
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From your description, I would make the change. It sounds like you are working at a very difficult school. The change may be good.

However, be careful not to assume that a more affluent school will be that much different. I made the change from a low income school in the city to a wealthy district in the suburbs. Though it is true my current students have the best clothes, take luxurious vacations, and never go hungry, it is not true that those students aren't as emotionally needy as the city students I had taught. In some ways, my new students are more needy because they are not as mentally tough as my former students.

All parents are also very demanding, not just the helicopter ones.

As long as you are prepared to handle a new set of problems, I would get out of, what sounds like, a very toxic situation for you. But no matter where you work, teaching is hard! Tears come with the job.

That being said, the drug busts and murders would prompt me to move if I could afford it.
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Old 07-28-2015, 06:01 AM
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It sounds like your safety is on the line every day in your current placement. If I had to, I'd pick up a part time job to make up the difference. In an affluent community, you could most likely pick up tutoring jobs.

Safety first!
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Old 07-28-2015, 08:33 AM
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I think your well being is immeasurable. I wish you could earn more money. But, money isn't everything. I agree with taking the new job. Keep looking. You may find something comparable to the new job with more money.

Good luck!
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Old 07-28-2015, 11:33 AM
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Give it a try!

I guess for me, I can learn to live on less for my mental health.

Just because it's suburban and affluent doesn't mean helicopter moms. I have a lot of involved moms, but I know how to use them. you will adjust to how much parents want to help and support you and the child. You will also adjust to communication.
You might have a few helicopters, but it wont be a majority of them.


Just give it a try!!
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Old 07-28-2015, 01:32 PM
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I have taken, with different jobs- 30K paycut just to have a job i was happy in. Once i took a $20K pay cut for a job i was happy in.
It was obviously very hard to do without the usual money, had to make lots of cuts, but i did it and i was glad i had a job that i didnt hate.
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Old 07-28-2015, 06:51 PM
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I would do it if you can afford it, if it will improve your life - but teaching students with affluent, well-educated parents opens another can of worms. I felt they were always breathing down my neck.
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