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Old 01-02-2020, 01:16 PM
 
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A friend of a friend posted a rant on FB (one clearly intended to draw the usual anti-teacher, helicopter mom crowd into the echo chamber in a show of outraged solidarity). The rant was about how her daughter (Grade 5) had cracked up her new iPhone at school and how the teacher / school should be made to pay for a new one.

Darling had just received said iPhone (her first cell phone) for her birthday at the end of November. She sneaked it out of her backpack and into her desk. When the teacher went to move the desks during recess, Darling's phone toppled out, the screen shattered, and the frame got dented.

Despite the fact that there are school and classroom rules against students having cell phones with them during class (which mom admits in the thread), it's unreasonable to hold a child accountable. Mom blames (drum roll... wait for it) the teacher's allegedly lax classroom management for the damage to the iPhone. If the teacher were stricter and more consistent in the enforcement of classroom expectations, Darling wouldn't have been tempted to sneak her phone into her desk. Mom claims (presumably because Darling told her so) that "half the kids in the class" text and play games at their desks (yeah, okay mom... and if she says it, it must be true) and so it created an "irresistible temptation" for Darling to do likewise.

And, of course, the echo chamber was quick to oblige Mom and encourage her in her crusade against the big, bad, mean school system.

One comment: "I agree 1000%!!! Students are under the care of teachers at school. As parents we expect teachers to care for our kids and their belongings like their own. If I were watching Darling, and her phone smashed on my watch, I'd expect to be responsible for the repair or replacement cost. It wouldn't even be a question in my mind. School should be no different imo. The teacher needs to pay up."

Another comment: "School policy is not relevant. The teacher moved the desk. Moving the desk caused the damage to the phone. The teacher caused the damage. Open and shut case."

Each supportive comment received several "likes" from the rest of the echo chamber. One guy had backbone enough to offer criticism and suggest that it was the daughter who was responsible for ignoring school rules. Schools can't be responsible every time a kid puts an expensive possession in harm's way and it gets lost, stolen, or broken. This comment got two "angry face" responses and one "laughing face" emoji before the OP responded with "Bye Felicia!" and deleted the comment and evidently unfriended the poster.

"O brave new world that has such people in it!" (William Shakespeare, The Tempest).


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Sadly, you could keep the players, change the scenario to just about anything, and get a similar response.

So the teacher is supposed to read minds for who snuck in contraband yet the parents are off the hook for raising a kid who thinks it's ok to break the rules because others do.
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Old 01-02-2020, 01:32 PM
 
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This is sad. If I was the teacher, I would not pay for anything. The rules state no cell phones. Snowflake had her cell phone in her desk and broke the rules. The phone would not be damaged if it was in her backpack. Itís her fault. Iím curious to find out what happened. I hope the school does not make the teacher responsible.
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Old 01-02-2020, 01:32 PM
 
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Whatís even more upsetting is that the P will support the parent and try to make the teacher pay for the broken iPhone.
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A totally brilliant way to teach
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her child about responsibility and the reason for following rules. As bad as I feel for the teacher, I know what is in the future for that mom when little precious princess is a teen.


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I understand itís real, but I donít want to believe it. Those comments are something wacko.
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Old 01-02-2020, 02:58 PM
 
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One of the reasons I retired early is this type of behavior. I always console myself with knowing that in the end, the parents will be the ones that have an adult child living with them that they are supporting.
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As far as parents excising their kids actions in any situation that involves schools.

I’m glad I don’t have any social media (other than this). People are always looking for attention by posting new things to be outraged about.

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Old 01-02-2020, 04:02 PM
 
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You'd think the parents would have insurance on such an expensive phone used by such a young kid. (Of course, even if they do, they shouldn't give it back to her right away, to drive home the lesson about why we have rules.)
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I donít have kids, but I like that approach.


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Clearly the parent has no responsibility for this issue. No parent should be expected to parent their child by making sure she doesn't bring items that are not allowed to school in the first place. I hope the teacher is not held responsible but my guess they will be.
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Old 01-02-2020, 04:37 PM
 
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People make my brain hurt.
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Ok, this is maddening! Pls let us know what happens!
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My response
Old 01-02-2020, 08:01 PM
 
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would be so sue me. It would make a great Judge Judy case.
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We had a Facebook torch and pitchfork crew ready to storm the castle every time one of their snowflakes was inconvenienced. They always planned when and where they were going to convene and what was going to come of it.

Times they actually showed up? ZERO.

We were very glad when those kids moved to the next school.
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OMG! Laughing at the
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thought of Judge Judy getting ahold of this mom and kid. I'd watch it daily and probably it'd never lose the humor!
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In my department at my school we always ask, ďHow would this be handled from a legal standpoint?Ē

The case here? If the rules were posted, signed off on, and/or regularly enforced with documentation, then itís a slam dunk in our school.

I hope this parent is ready to reap what they sow when Snowflake gets older. My wish is that they all learn a lesson and become better people for it.
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Old 01-03-2020, 04:14 AM
 
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I second and third the Judge Judy idea. I would LOVE to hear her opinion on this

I feel sorry for the teacher but sorrier for the kid. Reality will hit hard
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thought of Judge Judy getting ahold of this mom and kid. I'd watch it daily and probably it'd never lose the humor!
My cousin works for the Judge Judy show.
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This is why some schools where I sub stopped collecting kids phones. The kids brought them to school and they were damaged when they came to school or damaged by the student. In one case, in the cafeteria, the student held out the phone for the teacher and then dropped it when the teacher reached for it. There was video footage clearly showing this. Parents argued that the teacher should have let the student keep the phone. If she had done that then the phone wouldn't of been damaged.
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Old 01-03-2020, 09:04 AM
 
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Who supports an irresponsible child who breaks well documented rules?
Who is irresponsible and fails to insure a phone purchased for a child?
Who gives a kid a phone without screen protector?

Irresponsible parents, that’s who.

Mom and dad, the rules are the rules. Get your kid a job to pay for the phone they broke or deal with it buying the kid a new phone. Being irresponsible is expensive.
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I can't see how a teacher would be responsible for the cost of repairing a phone that was accidentally broken because it was concealed in a desk, unknown to the teacher and against the rules, especially if the rules were clearly stated. Hopefully, parents signed a copy of the rules at the beginning of the year showing they'd read and agreed to them. If so, legally I would think the parent wouldn't have a leg to stand on. I would also hope that the administration would back the teacher on this.

I am so glad I am retired. I remember those days.
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Old 01-03-2020, 12:07 PM
 
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No no no no no no no no NO! I would NEVER pay up for something like this! The parent should realize this child is not responsible enough to even have that phone.

Also, note to self... if something like this ever happens to me, I 1) pick up the broken phone, 2) place it carefully back in the desk and 3) say nothing! Let the child deal with it.
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That is e exactly what I was thinking. The kids were at recess.
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And be careful
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If you pick the phone up and put it back in the desk (broken) don't leave finger prints. These parents are crazy!
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Subman- BEG your cousin to get ahold of this case!
Private Eyes I was thinking the exact same thing as you! Grab a Kleenex 1st, so you don't leave any prints for these crazies to find!
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ďSchool policy is not relevantĒ
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That statement reflects the entire problem. Parents think that we aren’t allowed to set rules, just as every other organization or institution does.

Of course, when administrators regularly cower by throwing teachers and other school staff under the bus for just doing a basic job and trying to enforce the rules on the books and routinely grant special exceptions, who can blame parents for thinking that what is actually codified doesn’t matter?
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I had a little girl in my class when I taught third grade who brought a cell phone to school in her backpack. When we left the room to go to specials, she stayed behind to play games on her phone. One of the kids ratted her out before we go too far down the hall. I went back and busted her. I took her phone away and sent a note home that her mom would need to come to school to get it. The next day, the little girl had a new phone.
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ugh.
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When I was a student in the 90's we were held accountable for own actions. We were expected to follow rules.

Imagine that. Children being responsible for their behavior!

But it's considered an "outdated" concept, sadly.

Today's schools are weak parent pleaser schools.

There should be a sign posted at every school these days:

"Not responsible for damaged or misplaced phones. Bring at your own risk."
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There should be a sign posted at every school these days:

"Not responsible for damaged or misplaced phones. Bring at your own risk."
We also should have a sign that states "Rules are in place and strictly enforced. You are responsible for the consequences of not following these rules. "
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These rules should be in the student handbook, and an acknowledgment of agreeing to the rules should be signed by every student and parent. Then just send home a copy of the signed agreement whenever something like this comes up.
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This sounds like that behavior. It is awful! The parents are continuing to act like we are their employees.


So over it.
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So on the one hand, Mom is complaining that the teacher (supposedly) doesn't enforce classroom rules. On the other hand, she thinks classroom rules are irrelevant. Okay, then.

I'm curious as to how mom thinks she can make the teacher pay for the phone. It's not like her principal can just say, "Oh, Bad Teacher, you'll have to hand over $500 or you're fired." She'd have to take the teacher to small claims court, where hopefully, she would be laughed off the premises.

I don't think the teacher has anything to worry about, but it's appalling how the Facebook Posse is ready to lynch her.
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These are the same twits
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that claim their children are the most important things in their lives and they would do anything to insure their success in school.....BUT, won't replace lost glasses because they are too expensive.
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