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Old 11-18-2009, 08:54 AM
 
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I never experienced this before. I started working in a new district this week and when I come in, they give me the teacher's schedule and then tell me what they want me to cover during the prep periods. It's not like I usually take a nap during preps. I use that time primarily to straighten up the room, mark papers for the teacher or look over the plans for the remainder of the day. But the secretary and this district told me that "subs don't need a break." Really? So the teacher needs a break but not the sub? Has the secretary ever subbed - walked into a classroom she's never been in before, with kids she's never seen before all riled up because there's a subsititute teacher and tried to teach new material? But that doesn't entitle a person to a break I guess.

Does your district do this?


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I follow the teacher's schedule. Usually, the teacher leaves something for me to do during the prep (marking papers, making copies, etc.). If I am a floating sub, I don't get a prep period but if I am in for one teacher all day, I get their prep period. Like you, I need that time to get myself ready for the rest of the day.

Unfortunately, unless a person has been a substitute they have no idea how difficult the job is (new kids every day, lesson plans, etc.). It is very frustrating.

One thing that I seem to end of with a lot is recess duty/lunch duty. Hmmm... I actually had one teacher tell me that whenever there is a substitute in, they give the sub recess duty. I was in for this teacher three days in a row and I had recess duty three days in a row. I guess they think we are machines that don't need/deserve rest.
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Old 11-18-2009, 09:18 AM
 
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I subbed at a school a few weeks ago where I was on for 8 hours solid without so much as a minute off. Class time, lunch with the kids, recess duty, a mountain of papers to grade during prep time and then after school kid pickup duty. Then clean up the room and write a note to the teacher. Of course, the permanent teachers were also working this hard, and for that matter, so were the kids...but don't get me going on that one! At least the regular teachers got paid a decent wage.
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Old 11-18-2009, 09:53 AM
 
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If I work in the middle school at one district, I am ALWAYS called to cover some class during my prep/administrative duty. Sometimes its just to to cover a study hall but other times I've had to actually try and teach a class! I'm dreading the day that I have to do ISS duty. yuck.

Once I had to cover a computer class with 6th graders. I was ready to have the kids just play games the whole period...but then I found lesson plans on the desk. I had to try and teach them to do a powerpoint project...without being able to log onto the computer or use the smart board. There was no indication that any other period did anything....so I just fumbled through the plan and wrote the teacher a note saying what I did and to check their work! I didn't want to get in trouble for not trying the plans! grrrrr:-/
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:03 PM
 
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I've subbed for three different districts. One time in a particular district, I was in a middle school which had 80 min. blocks and instead of having a block off, I had to cover for a french teacher who left NO PLANS. For 80 mins!!! I was so frustrated, that I was actually subbed for the spanish teacher that day and used her plans for the 80 min. block I had to cover, but made it a french assignment instead of spanish. haha! How does someone have the audacity for me to cover a 3rd block class which is that long with no plans?

My favorite district does not assign duties to the subs during prep time. They have a lot more respect for subs and do not ask anymore of us, unless they are completely desperate and this has happened only once.

In another district, they tell us to report to the office to see what duties need to be done. They should learn to get this work done on their own time and shouldn't have to rely on subs to get it done. That's what they're getting paid for. We're actually going beyond our call of duty by doing this.

Then there are some generous districts which I don't work in, darn! Where if they ask a sub to fill in during their assignment prep time, they get to fill out a time sheet and get paid additional for that time worked during prep. That's the way it should work. Subs shouldn't get forced to work during prep. We already do so much.


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I work mostly in high schools...During the prep periods, I sometimes am asked to cover for some other class. That usually happens when a school couldn't get all the subs it needs.
I do get paid extra money for working during the prep periods though.

There was one district where I would not be paid extra money for working during the prep period at a high school...I didn't like that at all...I don't work for that district anymore.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:10 PM
 
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I usually don't have to do anything during preps, although once or twice I've been asked to cover another teacher's class (in high school) or do some busy work.

Sometimes if I have a ton of prep time--I'm not talking about when the kids are in PE; I mean like if I'm covering for a specialist and the three classes of third graders I was supposed to see back-to-back all afternoon are on a field trip--I'll go to the office and see if they have anything they need me to do.
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Our secretaries treat us like queens. If they need us to do something outside of what we signed up for they ASK us as a FAVOR and they REPAY us by working us more. The favors are like switching to another classroom, or working the last period when we had orig. had it scheduled off,etc thing like that. If they move us around they are ALL great at making sure we have a plan period so we can do things lik eEAT and go POTTY. B/c they take care of me, I take care of them and rarely turn down a "favor" when I know that we subs contract is for the orig. contracted assign and if they change us we have the right to say no (which sometimes may mean you dont' work or get paid, but we have that right)

I am curious what those things were. If it was covering someone elses class just b/c I was available and they could take advantage of me, then no. I wouldn't do it and I'd tell her so. I'd say, sorry - that isn't going to work. You do not need to explain why to the secretary. If she has a problemw / that she can take it up the ladder and you can speak directly to the vp or P who actually is in control of your job. NOW...if it is a sob sotry and a "favor" then yes I might do it, such as...mrs. so and so is feeling really sick and we can't get a sub and aides are covering the class and can you take a turn on plan period or maybe mr. ladida's mother just died and he's really upset and needs to make phone calls can you cover for him - then yes. But just b/c I am cheap available labor uh no. Sorry, I gotta eat, pee and get organized for the rest of the day. DUH!

Fact is, I most often leave the building during my plan if it is anywhere near the lunch hour. Of course, if it is first thing or last thing I do not, but I have a life too and teachers aren't expected to stick around. I let the office/secretary know I"ll be back and I leave.

I think you need to stand up for yourself now whiel you are still new.
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Old 11-18-2009, 02:46 PM
 
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In one district, which is absolutely Desperate for subs, we have to report for the full day even if we've only signed up for a half day assignment. They will Find things for us to do All Day Long. I had to fill in for a teacher who had a meeting one day, in which there was also supposed to be TWO aides because of the behavior and emotional issues. Both aides were out. Oh joy.

In one of the districts, we are sometimes asked to cover a class during prep, but are paid extra for that.

Another district with block scheduling doesn't always require us to cover a fourth class, but also doesn't pay us extra when we do cover a fourth class.

And in my fourth district, we are sometimes asked to cover a class during prep, but aren't paid extra for it.

I don't mind, most of the time, covering a class during prep because I'd rather be useful than useless, but on those days when I need extra time to regroup, boy, is it a pain.
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Old 11-18-2009, 06:35 PM
 
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I don't mind cover, but I never get paid extra for it. Grading papers and playground duty are a few reasons why I never do elementary. If I am asked to make copies I don't go back. I don't do anything extra that I don't want to do.


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Old 11-19-2009, 12:31 PM
 
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My two main schools only ask that very rarely, if they're really stuck.

But once in another school, I was in to cover meetings. There were some gaps in between, and I was asked to sharpen pencils for state testing! By the end of that day, I thought my hand was going to fall off.
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Old 11-19-2009, 05:12 PM
 
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Most districts here give subs their plan just like the teacher. One district asks us to mark the papers that were done while we were there if at all possible. I do that but I won't stay late. Also - most teachers don't expect you to do it - but its nice. Once in a great while I'll have to cover but its only in an emergency.

As for duties, most teachers here are respectful enough not to try to stick you with extra duties that weren't your responsibility. Last week though, I had a brand new teacher try to switch out his recess duty to me - so I just went out on the chart and switched it back. Seriously! When he asked me about it - I said - Oh I thought it was a mistake since I know its your turn outside. It says in my plan I'm in. Period!

I don't sub for the school that tried to have me dust their library during my plan any more - that's another OMG moment. They tried both times I was there - I didn't go back.

Still if I have time - I always try to help out - like last week I traced out 170 turkeys - it was really nice to come back this week and see them all dress up different (Angelturkey, Rockstar Turkey, BikiniBabe turkey - Elvis turkey - the kids did a fabulous job!)
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Old 11-19-2009, 06:22 PM
 
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In the elementary and MS, definitely going to cover somewhere else. It's unheard of to keep the prep (unless you can prove the original teacher left a bunch of stuff for you to do). The reason was, until this year, the elem/MS teachers were not guaranteed any amount of prep.
In the HSs here, we usually don't cover during prep unless they are short staff. Mainly because they are guaranteed a prep a day, and it's more effort to keep track of extra preps.
In other school divisions/districts I've been in, I've never kept the preps. Even if it meant helping the secretaries with filing.
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