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We don't have a 10 cent pencil or paper but carry a $1000 phone!
Old 03-04-2020, 07:28 PM
 
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Every single time when students are to do work, of those who even bother to do anything (usually less than half the class), half of those come up to my desk wanting a pencil or paper to write on. Unless their teacher provides them with it - and many do, as there are normally.dozens of pencils in the desk, and stacks of blank paper in the room. Are students not required to buy their own pencils, papers, and other accessories anymore?

These are HIGH-SCHOOL kids by the way! I notice that no one ever "forgets" or "doesnt have" a cell phone though! What the heck is on all their backpacks that seem so full all of the time? I will tell them it is not my responsibility to provide these accessories to them. When I went to school on the 1990's, we all had to buy our own pencils and paper. These kids all have thousand dollar cell phones, yet can't afford ten cents for a pencil or a buck for paper? Also, all the sodas you want in 2020! Yep, every day, morbidly-obese students forcefully shove giant bottles of soda in their mouths, along with bags of doritos, takis, sugar-ridden bars of snickers, whatever else you can imagine, these kids are eating in class, then throwing their trash all on the floor! Is this happening where you all are too? Cell phones officially are not allowed to be out in class, but many teachers now assign work for the class on google classroom, which requires students to use their phones!


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Teachers and schools sometimes CLAIM that they don't allow phones. They like to look "tough," I think. These "hard and fast rules," as I call them, have gotten me in trouble in the past because they don't really follow them. Same with "nobody leaves the room.". These types of supposed rules just make subbing more difficult because they don't follow it.

Just yesterday the teacher told me that if students had to go to the bathroom, that they had to be "escorted.". Given, it was special Ed with only about 10 students (high school). I said, "escorted by who?". She said, "you. Because they won't come back for 15-20 minutes, otherwise.". I said, "so I take the whole class?". I was confused. Then she said I could call the vice-principal to escort them. Yea, right.

Teachers need to tell us what they REALLY do, not what the school or class "policy" is.

There is one teacher that has golf pencils for students. That is a good idea, I think.
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Old 03-05-2020, 12:43 PM
 
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When I was a novice at subbing, I was written-up several times for "not controlling the classroom". I was subsequent banned from another one for the same reason, both middle schools. Apparently, there is no shortage of subs here, that's why they gave a 10% raise this year, 15% on Mondays and Fridays, wink wink. Anyway, apparently several paras have complained to staff about my teaching now at the worst high-school in town saying I am too rude and harsh. Which is it? What is the fine middle-ground to where we make the teachers happy, the students happy (unfortunately the students complaints are heard, they dont like me because I make them do their work) and make the paras happy?
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If you have a population of students willing to follow rules more than half or most of the time, then that's the fine line. A long time ago I subbed in middle and high schools. I could do it back then, and if students complained about me, admin had my back usually. They don't now. Students cry, complain, argue, misbehave, and have tantrums. They are vocal, twist circumstances around and tell on you. Middle school aged and teens want to be independent and will demonstrate this desire by antagonizing you. I sub only in grades 1-4 now. All it takes for subs to be in trouble is to have students complain or tell on you. I find the elementary grades try to follow rules and comply in general. Sure there are exceptions. Even in 4th and 5th graders students are becoming defiant. I've experienced students in primary grades acting defiant, but it's not as common as it is in high and middle school.If students are complaining about you in middle or high school, then you're probably doing your job, giving them boundaries, but this doesn't mean admin will support you. A messed up world at times indeed
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Old 03-09-2020, 07:19 PM
 
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Oh, the cell phone nonsense is BS.


If schools actually cared they'd make it a rule that cell phone use wasn't allowed in any classroom.


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Old 03-13-2020, 03:27 PM
 
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This is one of those things that only teachers know.

If you were to say it to anyone else, they would call you a racist or a hater of the poor and then make excuses.

Most people who work in the field know and don't have to explain. People that don't are basing their opinions and feelings off of corny Hollywood movies.
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Old 03-13-2020, 03:50 PM
 
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Perhaps this will help explain the phenomenon.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/w...n-luxury-goods
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