Where is the demand for ESOL teachers? - ProTeacher Community




Home Join Now Search My Favorites
Help


      The Job Search

Where is the demand for ESOL teachers?

>

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Chiyo
 
 
Guest

Chiyo
 
 
Guest
Where is the demand for ESOL teachers?
Old 07-26-2019, 08:16 AM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #1

I live in Georgia and many districts here are cutting ESOL services to balance budgets. Combined with my lack of elementary certification, I fear this is an omen for my future career as an ESOL teacher here. Are there other states or regions where ESOL is more in demand?


  Reply With Quote

GraceKrispy's Avatar
GraceKrispy GraceKrispy is online now
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 38,383
Blog Entries: 1
Senior Member

GraceKrispy
 
GraceKrispy's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 38,383
Senior Member

Old 07-27-2019, 08:29 AM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #2

New Mexico is usually looking for TESOL teachers- especially Albuquerque (last I looked). Good luck! I hope you are able to find something!

I didn't know someone could get the TESOL/ESOL certification without having teacher certification first, though.
GraceKrispy is online now   Reply With Quote
K12ENLTeacher K12ENLTeacher is offline
 
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 55
Junior Member

K12ENLTeacher
 
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 55
Junior Member
I wonder...
Old 07-27-2019, 11:22 AM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #3

what is the process for cutting ESL services? I mean, is it not mandated to provide services once a student is identified as EL? I see the only way to cut the ESL services is, let's say, the enrollment is rather low. But even then, the school may employ a part-time ESL teacher. I do not think cutting ESL services is the same as cutting art or music. Something illegal here I am sensing. Unless, the schools eliminate push in and pull out services and require that teachers provide services as integrated ENL.
K12ENLTeacher is offline   Reply With Quote
cruxian's Avatar
cruxian cruxian is offline
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8,430
Senior Member

cruxian
 
cruxian's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8,430
Senior Member

Old 07-28-2019, 05:21 PM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #4

Huh. I was going to write something like K12ENLTeacher...I thought the ESOL services were federal mandate, therefore largely contingent on enrollment. I was also under the impression that you had to have an elementary education certification in addition to an ESOL degree.
FWIW, the DC area usually has a steady need for ESOL teachers.
cruxian is offline   Reply With Quote
Haley23 Haley23 is online now
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 6,898
Senior Member

Haley23
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 6,898
Senior Member

Old 07-28-2019, 05:58 PM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #5

In some places, classroom teachers teach some sort of EL block during the day rather than having a seperate EL teacher provide services. And in other places, they just require a certain number of teachers to have the certification and they just split the ELs among those classroom teachers.

Here in CO, my school does still have EL teachers, but it's definitely not a shortage area. Due to the number of EL students we have, it's a really popular choice for teachers to do some sort of EL program for their MA degrees, and a lot of teachers are seeking positions that would give them a break from being in the regular classroom. I know in my former district, where we used to have EL teachers, they've done away with the position all together and have classroom teachers teach a daily EL block.


Haley23 is online now   Reply With Quote
Eliza's Avatar
Eliza Eliza is offline
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 153
Full Member

Eliza
 
Eliza's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 153
Full Member
It's not just about balancing budgets
Old 07-29-2019, 04:43 AM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #6

I live in a mid-sized city that has long been a resettlement point for a major international refugee organization. For each of the (almost) 20 years I've been working here, we would have an influx of refugees into our school system early in our school year. Our last group of refugees arrived in 2016. While we still have newcomers to our city, the number is much smaller than it was.

We're cutting ESOL teachers not because of budgets but because the number of students who need their services has diminished. Our school is looking forward to the day the influx of new students picks up again. They have always been a vital part of our school culture.

Until and unless immigration policies change, I suspect the ESOL career path might not be an easy one.
Eliza is offline   Reply With Quote
Chiyo
 
 
Guest

Chiyo
 
 
Guest
Clarification
Old 07-31-2019, 06:37 PM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #7

Hiya all:

1. Thanks for the heads up about New Mexico and the DC area. I have also heard decent things about Virginia.

2. In terms of "cutting ESOL," my state is choosing to reduce state funds, not federal funds. Many ESOL jobs have become part-time gigs, or one teacher is shared among multiple schools. Or they just increase the ESOL class sizes as much as they legally can. Consolidate grades and such.

3. ESOL has become a much more popular area, and unlike SPED, you can just take a certification test. I ran into a Spanish teacher a while back and when I said that I was looking for an ESOL teacher position, she commented that ESOL positions are the MOST competitive positions in her district. Many, many teachers want to go into ESOL now, way more than when I got my degree a couple years ago. Finally, there is also a push in many schools for all of their teachers to have ESOL certification. Thus, when positions DO open up, the school just hires within.

4. I actually got my education degree in what could be called "intermediate" grades. I can teach upper elementary (4,5) and middle school (6,7,8) . The problem is that I'm limited to two certification areas. That rules out nearly all elementary ESOL jobs, since they want early childhood certification too. Yes, according to my certificate, I can teach P-12 ESOL. But they've gotten a lot pickier in recent years with having other certification. For example, Secondary English if you are teaching high school ESOL.

5. It's just a theory but I suspect that the type of people who used to pursue ESOL aimed to teach internationally. However, wages have stagnated while costs of living, inflation, and taxes have all increased around the world. Not to mention, the problems with retirement. I wouldn't be surprised if this is leading ESOL teachers to stay home or return home earlier than planned.

Thanks to everyone who commented.
  Reply With Quote
cruxian's Avatar
cruxian cruxian is offline
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8,430
Senior Member

cruxian
 
cruxian's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8,430
Senior Member

Old 08-12-2019, 02:35 PM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #8

Dunno if this helps (or if you'll come back to revisit this post) but I'm in the DC area and we seem to have a steady stream of students in need of ESOL support at a variety of level. Interesting clarification about the state funding. I've seen a trend that many teachers are adding an ESOL endorsement since it's just an additional test. We've also had (at my previous elementary school which was relatively small for the county at 450 students) at least 4 full-time ESOL teachers, one of whom I think exclusively worked with 4/5 grades. Best of luck!!!
cruxian is offline   Reply With Quote

Join the conversation! Post as a guest or become a member today. New members welcome!

Reply

 

>
The Job Search
Thread Tools




Sign Up Now

Sign Up FREE | ProTeacher Help | BusyBoard

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:25 PM.

Copyright © 2019 ProTeacher®
For individual use only. Do not copy, reproduce or transmit.
source: www.proteacher.net