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Old 02-27-2015, 07:37 PM
 
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I love my school. I teach first grade and this is my first year teaching the entire year. I try to do my best with classroom management but it is of course always a learning experience. My class is definitely talkative and pick on each other a lot, but I try to encourage positive behavior and making good choices. I don't let them get away with things. But here's the thing and the reason I am asking for suggestions or if anyone else has had this problem...
My principal says I do a good job from everything she can see. BUT I constantly get little comments or digs from other staff about how awful my class is and how they cringe when they see us coming. I have apologize and then I get this comment "no, no don't be sorry it's just them". But for me I tend to take these comments very personally because these are MY kids and it makes me think I'm not doing something I should be doing or...I don't know anymore...I'm at a loss Do I talk to the principal? (Not in a complaining way, or tattle, but to get an honest opinion from a professional). Any ideas? or experience with this?


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I'd just focus on the comments your principal has made as to your performance. If discipline was a concern, I think she would have said something. If you are concerned about discipline, I would ask her for some feedback on how she thinks you are doing in that regard without mentioning the comments from the other teachers.

I would take the comments as far as the teachers go mostly as "it's just them." If you want to know why they say they cringe every time they see your class, ask them what specifically makes them cringe. Some teachers are just negative and complain a lot. Your youth and newness to teaching may make them think they can be critical.

We have a couple of teachers in my hallway who teach another grade who complain our kids get loud in the hall. Yes, they do at times and we handle it. This group was loud last school year all year when the other teachers had them. And their current kids are loud all the time. I take their complaining with a grain of salt because the ones who complain do so about everything. Negative!!!!

I would think about where your students can make improvements and practice with them. They are young and won't be perfect but they can improve. Seek out someone who you respect, trust, and ask for some suggestions. Don't let others beat down your spirit with their rudeness.

Good luck and enjoy the rest of the year.
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We have 2 new kindergarten teachers this year and both of their classes are rough. I bet the hear comments all. the. time. I was debating going down to first grade next year, but I am not because of the group of kindergarteners.

It isn't the new teachers. It is the kids. I see them at the bus lines and still, but this time of year, they cannot safely stand in the lines. Recess has ceased to be funny. Last week I followed one of them all the way back to the school, grabbed him (not physically) and had him go all the way back AND I wrote him a discipline slip. I don't think I have ever written discipline slips for kinders.

Some groups are rough. Some teachers are very picky about other students outside their classroom. And truthfully, sometimes the only thing we can make comments on with teachers we don't know well is their class! Don't take it personally. I have never understood why behavior outside my classroom (or anyone else's) reflects on the teacher. While they are in my class they don't act the same as they do at recess. Why would it be my fault? Or yours?
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OMG! 2 years ago I was a SpEd teacher for k/1. The kinder class came in for meet the teacher night and all 3 kinder teachers, the P and I cringed. They walked in like they owned the place ON MEET THE TEACHER NIGHT!! These kinder teachers were all veterans and 2/3 were amazing with the most fantastic classroom management you've ever seen (we don't need to talk about the 3rd) but all year was a nightmare. Seriously, comments were made by EVERYONE, ALL YEAR! We couldn't kick them out the door fast enough on the last day of school.

Last year they were just as bad as 1st graders. I have since transferred but my friend who teaches 3rd is already dreading getting them next year.

My point is, don't take it personally, some years, some kids and some groups are just like that. On the flip side, some years you'll get comments about what a great group you have and you must have the best management EVER when you haven't done anything differently. Teachers need to have a thick skin from parents, admin and sadly, colleagues.
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I truly appreciate all of the comments. They are encouraging and a reminder to have that "thick skin" I have cooled down from it all since yesterday, and will just keep doing my best and growing with what I learn along the way to change or do better at.


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I would not ask the principal for help first. If she is writing your evaluation and she doesn't have a problem with your classroom management don't let her know you feel like there is a problem. Ask an experienced teacher in your building for recommendations. Someone who can see you interact with the kids and knows the students.
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Ask the complainers what specifically they see as a problem so you can address it with the class. I require my students to support their opinions. Adults should be able to do the same. That being said, my first thought was to offer to call ahead to forewarn them your class is coming. I know---snarky, but wouldn't it be fun.
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I have that class this year. Truely impossible to get the kids to listen and behave. Discouraging times for me this year. I work constantly and go to bed early. No one can get this group under control except the computer teacher. The administration can not get this group to listen. Wondering if it is the way young children (not all but more) are coming to school.
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I had a principal once (wise) who said we could not come in and complain unless we had a possible solution to share. Immediately respond with "oh, would you mind sitting down with me and outlining what you do to keep discipline issues to a minimum?" They will either really help, or stop digging at you!
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Maybe the other teachers are jealous? Being your first year, I'm sure you have a lot of enthusiasm for teaching and haven't been tainted yet like some of the veteran teachers. What matters most is YOUR relationship with YOUR students. Teachers shouldn't be wardens to our youth. Good luck and hang in there. Just tell the complaining teachers, "Thank you," and be sure to smile when you say it.


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Old 03-27-2015, 07:29 PM
 
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I teach older children but I have taught in all grade levels. Some teachers can be really mean and say really terrible things about other teachers behind their back. I had an AP this week tell a teacher that my problem of getting my fish killed by a student (he poured soap in the tank) was because I had a fish tank in my high school classroom. Honestly, when I heard it I felt like doing really bad things to her. But, I thought, she is a first year AP and has not made the transition from teacher to AP. She won't come to me face to face and say this because her remark demonstrates her lack of knowledge about what all children need. My principal really likes what I do with my children and allows me to take them on field trips and write grants for things I want for my class-- I just ignore the mess. Today a student who was being disciplined ran out of her office and she did nothing. Now, all the school knows that she did not do what she needed to do. This is the sad thing about education-- there are always a few who try to tear apart all of us who are sensitive, understanding, firm, loving, etc. When their tongues wag behind you back just remember your principal's comments and how much your children have grown and learned in your classroom. Also, remember how your children's parents appreciate you and all you do for them. The good things we do is what matters and don't forget that as long as you teach. Best of luck!! <
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First of all Kudos to you for having a great review with your principal after one year. You will find that every year the students and their personalities are very different. The great thing about being new is that you DON'T see it! You are right they are YOUR kids .

Every year I would tell my students I don't care what happened last year, this is a new year a brand new start and you Will always be MY kids. With that thinking my then Fourth Graders are now grown, with kids, FB friends with me and it is amazing to see the people that they have become. I did that because just like you other teachers would bad mouth them the years before and they would hear it! Always remember that kids are kids and they pick up on the negative. If they know you are in their corner they will do ANYTHING for you!
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Old 03-28-2015, 05:42 AM
 
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Please don't take it personally. It's the group of kids. Every school has at least one class that is notorious throughout their time at school.
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I am a veteran teacher, and I get comments about my first grade class such as, You really have your hands full! And Your class is something else! And yes, I do and they are. But they are mine, and I feel protective of them! It's the momma lioness in you, protecting your cubs. That tells me that you are a natural teacher. Good for you! And no, don't say anything to the principal. Either as the others what specifically they are referring to, and if they have any pointers, or just say, "they've come such a long way!" And smile. Dont take it personally!
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Every once in a while you will get a class like that. I am a veteran teacher and this year I have that class! The principal has even said, "how did that happen?" I also get, "what did you do wrong to deserve this class?" I teach first as well and boy are they tough. I get comments like you all the time. I am sure you are doing everything right. Have one table go back to their seats at a time, notice how quiet and safe they are being. When lining up have them do it in different ways. Green table tiptoe back to your table. Red table spell and clap the word because as you come down to meeting. Give rewards for the best group. Simple rewards, lunch with teacher on Friday, certificate that you can easily print. Just a few ideas! Good luck, Your kids are liucky to have you!
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Old 03-28-2015, 05:33 PM
 
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Wow...I'm going through the exact same thing. I had a teacher tell me she don't like my students. But I have a great supportive principal and he know what i'm going through and he also understands my kids.
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It is not a reflection on you if they are doing what they should in your classroom. If a specialist or some other teacher cannot handle your class then it is their management that they need to question.
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Don't give the comments much thought. It's true that teachers can be very judgemental and negative, especially this time of year. Most of the time there is nothing negative intended. Ignore them. Keep that positive attachment you have for your kids! It will get you through so many tough days.
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Ignore those talkers and keep doing what you're doing. Sometimes you get a class with less than stellar behavior, and that's all there is to it. I've had classes that everyone in the building (including myself sometimes) hated to see coming, but it had nothing to do with me, but rather, their unique blend of personalities and how they interacted with one another. Sometimes you'll discover that many of your colleagues think that they're super teachers. If your principal is pleased, to heck with their side comments.
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This was my first year teaching first grade and I get these comments ALL OF THE TIME. It really drives me nuts. I do have a rough group and many people have told me that. I also notice a lot of teachers sometimes pounce on a new teacher. I'll be walking in the hallway with my class the same time they are with their class and they'll discipline a kid in MY line while the rest of their class is doing the same thing. It's so annoying. I'm sure they don't do it on purpose. Very annoying though.
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