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Yet another COVID-19 article
Old 05-10-2020, 07:16 PM
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But I like the way it is all broken down. As many states are re-opening, there are some things to keep in mind discussed in this post. I think the graphics and real-life stories of how COVID-19 was spread in some instances are interesting.

https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the...em-avoid-them?

For those who would like to know more about the author (as well you should), his credentials and disclaimers from his home page:
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Always defer to the guidance from your local Health Department or the CDC!
What you need to know up front:
I am not claiming to be an expert in coronaviruses, medicine, or preparedness.
I have PhD in Microbiology and Immunology from James Cook University, Australia.
I am a Assoc. Prof. of Biology at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth, where I teach and research infectious diseases and host immune responses of animals.
I get all of my information directly from experts in their fields and from the papers those experts are publishing daily.
I mostly write these articles for my family, friends, and students, who value my advice.
My email is ebromage@umassd.edu if you would like to verify the authenticity of my posts.


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Old 05-10-2020, 07:32 PM
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Thanks for sharing this article.

This is exactly what I was expressing in my thread below.

Some people are not getting it.

Cases will increase if people are not cautious.

I live in Georgia. We have had a partial re-opening for 2 weeks now & cases are increasing.
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Old 05-10-2020, 07:38 PM
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An interesting article that I can understand. Thank you.
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Old 05-10-2020, 07:39 PM
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This is exactly what I was expressing in my thread below.

Some people are not getting it.
Yep!! Completely agree, which is why I wanted to share. It's really frustrating. We're still "locked down," but clearly there are many people who don't believe precautions are necessary.
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Old 05-10-2020, 07:44 PM
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I’m going to share this link on my social media platforms.

I like the way it is broken down as well & easy to understand.

Thanks again for sharing!


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Old 05-10-2020, 07:47 PM
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This was a very informative article. It makes a lot of sense. It makes me wonder about how they will safely open schools.

It also makes me concerned for my DS, who works at a food store. He does work night hours and offers to do work in the back.
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Old 05-10-2020, 07:48 PM
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Iím going to share this link on my social media platforms.
Please do! I'm glad some are finding it helpful
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Old 05-10-2020, 07:55 PM
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Thank you, DRGraceKrispy, for a different perspective with the same good sense weíve heard so often. I like the way he writes. I especially liked reading:
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Any environment that is enclosed, with poor air circulation and high density of people, spells trouble.
I wish the people getting together for Motherís Day would read this.
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Old 05-10-2020, 09:33 PM
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Thanks for sharing.
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Will be sharing this article, for sure
Old 05-10-2020, 11:00 PM
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Thank you so much for posting this article! Very informative! If you have other articles that contain such helpful information, I'd be very interested in reading, and possibly, sharing them as well.


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Old 05-10-2020, 11:38 PM
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Thanks for posting the credentials. I saw a FB friend post that earlier this week but couldn't get the "about" link to work then.
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Old 05-11-2020, 02:35 AM
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This is a very helpful explanation. I shared it with family and friends and hope they also find it useful going forward. Thanks for sharing it here.
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Old 05-11-2020, 02:59 AM
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Thank you for posting that.
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Cases will increase no matter when
Old 05-11-2020, 05:06 AM
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we reopen. That is unavoidable. People in high risk groups should maintain their vigilance. People in lower risk categories should still be careful. Everyone should take precautions. But if you're thinking there will be a time when we reopen with no increase of cases, I don't think that's ever going to happen.
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Old 05-11-2020, 05:32 AM
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Good and very sensible information!
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Great article!
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Thank you so much for posting this. I plan on sharing it with others I know. Much appreciated!
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Old 05-11-2020, 05:49 AM
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Thanks for posting
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Old 05-11-2020, 05:53 AM
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Well said, PrivateEyes. Caution is one thing. Indefinite lockdown is quite another and that seems to be what some are clamoring for.
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Old 05-11-2020, 06:39 AM
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Thanks for sharing this.

We canít stay closed indefinitely and this will help me make an informed decision about what Iím willing to do and where Iím willing to go.
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Old 05-11-2020, 06:46 AM
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Thank you for sharing something intelligent and useful amid all the crackpot theories out there. This makes the virus transfer simple to understand.
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Old 05-11-2020, 06:55 AM
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Very informative article! Does not make me want to pop into all the little shops opening up in town. We just did our big Trader Joeís shopping during senior hour (probably 12 people in the entire store) and a short stop at liquor store. All set for a few weeks. We feel lucky to be retired. We get outside every day for at least an hour or so. We walk, then work in our yard. Our yard looks fabulous. We do our weights, yoga and meditation. Just staying close to home for the time being. DH just ran to local farm for eggs. We are lucky to have a great farm around the corner. Not feeling moved to buy meat at a grocery store! We wear our masks without argument too...thank you so much for some logical information.
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Old 05-11-2020, 07:10 AM
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Thanks for sharing this.
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Old 05-11-2020, 07:29 AM
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This is a very informative article. There is so much out there that's difficult to understand. This is clear. I am lucky to be retired and able to stay home. Our yard has never looked this beautiful, too. I am glad to hear that if I am gloved up and wearing a mask my risk is low, for grocery shopping or a trip to a pharmacy, but will probably still use Insta Cart and curbside pickup as much as possible.
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Old 05-11-2020, 07:59 AM
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Well said, PrivateEyes. Caution is one thing. Indefinite lockdown is quite another and that seems to be what some are clamoring for.


I too think that PrivateEyes said it well. We can't stay in lockdown forever and if you choose to continue to stay at home because that is what is best for you, then that is what you should do. I don't think wrecking the economy and having all of the indirect health issues (e.g., suicides, decline of mental health, complications/deaths from illnesses that should be preventable) warrants an extended lockdown. Cases will go up when we ease up the restrictions, but we are also testing more which would increase the number of cases.



With that, please stay safe everyone!
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Old 05-11-2020, 09:09 AM
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I agree PrivateEyes (and others). Lockdown cannot last forever. Numbers will go up as more are tested - but in a way, it's skewing the numbers. If you are tested today, and it shows you HAD the virus, is this being counted as a new case? That could also be why #'s show going up.



If you feel the need to stay home for health reasons, then by all means, do so. But this country will fall even further if we give in to this staying home forever.



If I can go to a grocery store, then I can go to work (not talking school but if I worked in an office). I know the people I work with in an an office, not the people frequenting the grocery store).
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Old 05-11-2020, 09:26 AM
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Good article. It doesn’t matter if I know the people around me or not, if someone is asymptomatic they could be spreading it. Be careful always!

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Old 05-11-2020, 09:30 AM
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Loved the article, there should be more info on viral loads out there; it would really help people make informed decisions

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I know the people I work with in an an office, not the people frequenting the grocery store).
The article says that asymptomatic people are spreading it and being in an enclosed room with others for a long period of time is more likely to cause infection spread. So how is knowing the people you are spending 8 hours with inside an office less dangerous than spending 1/2 hr in a grocery store having only very quick interactions with others?
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Old 05-11-2020, 12:10 PM
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We can’t stay closed indefinitely and this will help me make an informed decision about what I’m willing to do and where I’m willing to go.
YES, this is exactly the way I feel! We aren't going to stay closed forever, and since many places are opening up I think it's good to make good decisions to minimize risk while still living.

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The article says that asymptomatic people are spreading it and being in an enclosed room with others for a long period of time is more likely to cause infection spread. So how is knowing the people you are spending 8 hours with inside an office less dangerous than spending 1/2 hr in a grocery store having only very quick interactions with others?
I am also thinking this way. This reminds me of the thinking some had that it was fine to visit family or people they knew but to stay away from strangers. This is not a "stranger-only" virus Aren't we all connected by 7 degrees of [Kevin Bacon] separation?

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But if you're thinking there will be a time when we reopen with no increase of cases, I don't think that's ever going to happen.
Ah, the ambiguities of the English language... I don't know who the "you" to which you are referring might be, but I certainly have no doubt that there will be increase of cases as places reopen. What I, personally, would like to avoid is a massive spike. And I'm not one who is sitting totally pretty in lockdown. I lost half my income (which essentially is half the family income) when we shut down.

Now that many places have flattened the curve, it would be really nice not to see people going all out and assuming that opening up = life is back to normal. I'm certainly hearing that there are many thoughtful, cautious individuals out there. But I'm also hearing about those who defy regulations put into place for safety and that increases the risks for us all.
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Old 05-11-2020, 03:52 PM
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Very interesting, easy to read and understand as well as powerful! I am sharing.

And I am not 100% sure exactly who it was, but I am pretty sure this guy was a guest on one of the MSNBC shows last week.

Thank you!

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Old 05-11-2020, 05:48 PM
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GraceKrispy,

The author & this article was featured on the NBC Nightly news this afternoon in a positive manner.

I thought about reading & hearing about it here on PT first.

Thanks again for sharing this very informative article.

I shared it on several of my social media platforms last night.
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Old 05-11-2020, 07:16 PM
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The author & this article was featured on the NBC Nightly news this afternoon in a positive manner.
That is super cool! I'm so glad it's getting good press and exposure (thanks for sharing it with others). I'm never ahead of the game, so it was kind of fun to be one night ahead of NBC

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