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Going to the bathroom is a PRIVILEGE?
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Today I was working in the 4th grade. An aide caugth 3 boys goofing around in the bathroom. She singled out one boy and told him that going to the bathroom at school was a privilege. And if he could not have better behavior, he could not use the bathroom ever again! After she was gone, I pulled the boy aside and told him he could use the bathroom whenever he needed to go.

So I need opinions. Can you deny a child a bathroom trip? My answer is NO.

Thank you for your help.


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Um, no
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Going alone might be a privilege. If he can't handle it, he'd be escorted, but NO WAY would I ever deny a child the opportunity to use the bathroom!
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:37 PM
 
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Same here. There are a few kids who do need someone to walk with them, but we are not allowed to deny restroom trips. (And I wouldn't anyway.)
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It's not a right but not a privilege either
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At my school (middle school inner city) we can say no unless you want a consequence (usually 10 minute detention of 42 minute lunch). We can't just say no unless it's right after lunch. I usually say yes if they have a pass (they get 5 a week for all classes) and are doing what is asked of them.

If we allowed students to go to the restroom whenever they wanted a third would not be in class ever. It all depends on your demographic I think.
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Wow...
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I agree with Dee...


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I have a few students that require a pass. It is signed when they leave and when they come back. One of the students must use the office bathroom. Going to the bathroom is not a privilege but going without restrictions is.
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A right,not a privilege but...
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In most of the schools I sub in, the general rule is that they can't go during first period (exceptions for emergencies or kids with doctor's notes) or in some schools before 10 am. They are not allowed to go during instructional time either. In a few schools, they are not allowed to go during independent reading time.

In one school I sub in, bathroom visits seem to be for socialization purposes and or petty vandalism time. In that school, I give time limits as to how long they can be can be gone and will call a teacher in a nearby classroom or send a reliable student to "flush" them out of the bathroom if they exceed the limit.

When a large number of kids in a class gets the bathroom urge, I tell them that I am going to have to call the nurse to come up and examine all of them since there's obviously something contagious in the room.That usually ends the requests.
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to be able to use the bathroom without restrictions. I know if students are having issues using the restroom on their own - they need to use the office restroom or go as a whole class. I actually prefer to go as a class after recess or specialties. Causes less problems.
Or if it is an emergency and they cannot wait - I ask for five minutes of recess. That usually decides if they need to go or not. When they come up and tell me they owe me five - I usually say that is okay next time try to go when we go as a group. If I notice it is a problem they give me those five minutes. Have only done that once.
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Old 05-29-2013, 07:22 PM
 
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She misused the word privilege. It's not a privilege, it is a right as far as I'm concerned. However, she should have stated that going to the bathroom is not a time for playing around. In middle school, since they switch classes every hour, then they can go during switch time. I used to use the bathroom during switch time, go to my locker, and make it to class on time when I was in middle school. A lot of middle schoolers try to use the bathroom as an excuse to get out of work, etc.
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Not just middle school...
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A lot of elementary kids try to use the bathroom or go to the nurse to get out of work too...


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Old 05-31-2013, 06:57 AM
 
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Since no one has mentioned it, this aide may have prior knowledge with this boy, and reacted that way because of that knowledge.

I would have never pulled a student aside and counter manned something a regular employee told them. I would have put that in my report to the regular teacher and let her deal with it. But now you have a student that knows he can play the 2 adults against each other.

That said, I agree with posters like teacherinWA and Dee.
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I would have never pulled a student aside and counter manned something a regular employee told them. I would have put that in my report to the regular teacher and let her deal with it.
I agree with Kahluablast on this.
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You were a sub in the room? You can't make that kind of call and undermind what is said by someone who is always there.

I deny the bathroom all the time. Some kids are notorious for wanting to use the bathroom after the scheduled class time so they get a consequence on their behavior chart. Most often they all of a sudden don't need to go. Interestingly enough, noone's ever wet themselves The crew that thinks going unsupervised is playtime don't get to go by themselves. During instruction - no.
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"You were a sub in the room? You can't make that kind of call and undermind what is said by someone who is always there. "


The aide was not the room aide, she was just walking down the hall. Honestly, as a sub, I can not afford to have anyone pee their pants. And yes, this happened last year in 8th grade in our district and the sub was fired. Not how I want to be remembered.
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Old 05-31-2013, 02:42 PM
 
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You have every right to over rule an idiotic aide who says that to a child whether it be in a classroom or hall. The aide would be the one fired at the end, not you especially if the kid wets his/her pants. I have had an aid tell me that the students were not allowed to use the bathroom once and I straight out told her quietly, not in front of the kids, that it is the NJ state law that we always have to let them go, and I will let them if the need arises. She shut up real quick!!
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