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Old 03-12-2020, 03:19 AM
 
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Our county is pushing for distance learning (teaching virtually) if we close more than 5 days due to coronavirus.

We have 20 snow days built in and it's use them or lose them. We've used 1.

I know for my subject at the elementary level, online is not going to be effective. I've remained quiet about this at the school because I know the response I would receive. An email came out from our technology specialist saying that she doesn't know any more than we do but being able to teach distance learning is just good teaching practice. And here this lady never has to do any of it.

Maybe some people reading this disagree with me and hopefully if you do we can disagree respectfully. I feel like this is asking us to do beyond what our job entails and sending a message to the community that we are at their service when we have no control over this situation.

I was already dangling by a thread this year and this is just messing with my head big time.


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Are you in Northern VA?
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That sounds like my district. Any distance learning wonít count as student school days.
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I am stuck on 20 snow days built in. If you have that many and haven't used them, why can't they count for this type of day off?

I agree with the distance learning problem. I can see 3rd graders and up doing this for short periods of time fairly effectively - if parents ensure students are looking at directions and putting in effort. For K-2, more assistance is needed. They need constant monitoring and guidance, even if they are playing games.
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And not all students have connectivity...
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And even if they did, my last two classes were not independent. The majority of the students would need monitoring from their parents or caregivers. Not sure that is going to happen...

I see a lot of review work being done. Our district had a subscription to IXL, so the students could be assigned that. We did have our math book online, but I think a math consultant revamped the curriculum with the math coach, so lessons are skipped and/or changed. Assigning new work would be tough.

It would be nice if the state suspended testing for the year. If the schools are closed fo a sizable length of time, I don't know how the curriculum could be covered given the loss of instructional time.

Many schools near me are providing professional development time to create home-based lessons. I agree that this type of work just adds to our workload because it has got to be time-consuming and possibly can't even be completed in the time the district has given.

This is another reason I am glad to be retired, even if no one could have possibly seen this coming.
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Do you think that if students needs monitoring from parents, it will dawn on them that teachers are not just babysitters???


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If my school will ask me to do online teaching, I will walk off right that instant. This profession already consumes my life. I will not let it move into my home.
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Old 03-12-2020, 02:17 PM
 
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This profession already consumes my life. I will not let it move into my home.
Many articles I have read were expecting teachers to be at school while students are not.

If you are at home, make sure you limit yourself to specific hours and post it where ever you are doing class. Then stick to it. Don't check email or LMS unless it is those hours.

I do tech classes. My classes definitely fall below Math and ELA. I would be a big support to teachers who haven't really worked with these products enough- but only if we are at school. I am not doing everyone's work just because I know how.
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Old 03-12-2020, 02:41 PM
 
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My district just closed until March 29. We have to use Class Dojo k-2 and Google classroom 3-12. We have a professional day tomorrow to plan. It will be interesting.
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We have a meeting tomorrow to go over what will happen if they have to close schools. Rumor has it virtual learning. I think they are right now trying to reach out to families to see who has devices at home, internet, etc. I'm sure most, if not all, of our families do. If they don't, supposedly they were going to try to get devices and hot spots for those in need. However, I think the bigger issue is not necessarily if they have devices or not, but if they have ENOUGH devices. If a family has multiple kids and each has to use to it during the day for e-learning, how will that work? Say a family has 4 or 5 kids...I doubt they have 4 or 5 devices that each kid could be 1-1...so yes, most of our families do probably have devices and Internet, but the question is do they have enough! If they have 1 device and 4-5 kids needing to use it during the day, there could be an issue, depending on the amount of work up.
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I could see prodigy, and a few other similar programs working to a point, but even older kids will struggle to maintain learning if it goes too long. maybe face time or a video feed with chat, that requires pupil interaction, but what school will have that setup?

I'm sure it can be done, in college level, employers are beginning to prefer online degrees to on-campus degrees, but its because of focus and determination, the factors our kids wont have


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Old 03-12-2020, 04:29 PM
 
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My district just closed for the next three weeks. We were told to possibly prepare for 6-8 weeks if needed. The kids in my class aren't independent on tech unless it's a video game. Now if I held a daily Fortnight tournament they would be all over it, but ask them to do IXL or Xtramath everyday for several weeks and it's not going to happen. Parents aren't going to monitor this and kids aren't going to tune in for "school" every day. I just don't see it. Not every family has internet or computer/Ipad at home! Whatever!!
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So true
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While I do think tech and teaching will be more prominent in the future of education, it cannot happen overnight just due to this circumstance. It may become the next best practice to know, but, like any up and coming practice, it will take training and practice for both the teachers and the students.

I mean I could assign things online but my students would need assistance in accessing it and then completing it.

Right now, common sense would say that "best practice" for your school is to use the built-in "Snow" days. School closure for snow is no different than school closure for any other reason.
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don't see how online instruction would work Where in early intervention so much time is supposed to be in learning centers with other children. I have goals for just about every child regarding turn taking and interacting appropriately. really don't see us closing unless the state makes us.
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Online for elementary would be ridiculous
Old 03-12-2020, 06:07 PM
 
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where I live.
I'd bet 100,000 bucks, no more than 2 kids would complete an online course for 2 weeks.
I could name the 2. ( Both have very responsible parents.)
Some, the only internet they have is w/ their mom's phone.
Moms would never give up their phones for her kid's education here.
Ours has talked about doing the same.
HS kids might do it, but the littler ones won't w/out parent support.
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What we do in our classrooms daily can not be replicated online.

That's also how I feel when students or out and I'm asked to send home the work they missed. It's impossible. It's not worksheets or reading out of a textbook and answering questions at the end of the chapter. It's hands-on and interactive.

I teach kindergarten.
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We have the equivalent of 20 days when counting hours. So we could use 20 snow days a year and not have to make any up. This year we used 1.

I will know more Monday, but plans are for us to spend Monday planning for online learning. Itís possible they will have us go in while students arenít there if we close. I also understand it will not count as student days, but again I hope to hear more Monday.
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If my district closes, and I think it may after tomorrow, I hope all staff is not required to report. I am an assistant and there is virtually nothing for me to do if students are not present as I just provide support for them working on lessons the teacher provides.
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We are closed for at least the next 2 weeks. The 1st week is Spring Break. Then, closed for the 2nd week, and reassess on Mar. 27th as to whether to remain closed. We have been given no guidelines, and certainly not digital learning mandates/requirements. I finally asked my P today what is expected.

We are sending things via whatever method we so choose. This might be e-mail, Google classrooms, etc.

I teach 2nd.

I plan to send daily "requirements", which include some fun choices.

*30 min. I-Ready lessons
*30 min. Independent Reading daily
*Math game(s)
*Scavenger hunts (likely math related, but could also be spelling/phonics)
*Cooking ideas to do with family. Help make dinner...
*Play a game with your family. (Monopoly, etc.).
*Some math pages...
*Ideas for practicing math facts
*Make a math game. Play it with your parents.
*Cereal box book reports
*How-to's: Build a fort. Write a "how-to" describing how you built YOUR fort. (or similar ideas)
*Epic Books
*E-mail me every day or so. Tell me what you've been doing.
*Free choice. Do something learning related. E-mail me about it.

Tomorrow, we are making writing notebooks to take home. They will get to design the front covers. I am going to talk to them about my expectations, across the board. I'll ask that they all return their writing notebooks when we return and we'll share them!

I plan to be very creative so that students are more apt to do the activities. (Regardless, their parents will make them...ha).

I teach 2nd in a middle income community. Not rich. Nor poor. All 21 of my students have internet access and a device. Their parents are supportive of their education. I'm very lucky in that regard.

While I HATE that this is happening, I'm going to make the best of it. If not for this horrible event, I'd be in class teaching those 1-2 weeks, anyway. It's not like it's an extra week/2 weeks off for vacation.

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My district, as well as all others in Washington state's three largest counties, just closed for at least the next six weeks. We're not doing online learning because it's inequitable - too many of our kids have no internet access at home, and those who do may not have enough computers for all the students in the home. Additionally, we couldn't provide the required accommodations for IEPs online, so it opens up potential legal liabilities.

Our district is printing out and mailing home work packets. We're being paid during the closure, which means we're expected to perform "professional responsibilities", such as responding to parent emails requesting assistance. The fact that most kids won't do the work is outside our control, and likely why our state superintendent just canceled all state testing for this year.
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So if people are working and getting paid while students are off, those are counting as contract days. What happens if those days donít count as student days and they have to be made up? Will that lengthen your contract or do you work days for no pay?
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I am not complaining about not getting a vacation. Our county has built-in 20 snow days and for what? And there's talk of us having to possibly make it up even if we do distance learning. There is absolutely no respect or regard for teachers anymore. Hopefully this job I take in July works out and I never have to look back.
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I would have no idea where to begin to teach digitally. I'm in fourth grade. My students do you Zearn to go along with Eureka Math from time to time and I could have them go on Raz-Kids for some reading, and Prodigy and Freckle for some practice, but that's it.

I don't know how to use Google classroom and neither do my students. That would be true for most of our staff . I don't see that working very well at all for us.
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In my district, teachers are expected to go in to work even though there are no students present, and then head the online class from their classroom. That's how they can continue paying them despite kids not physically being in class. As someone who helped manage an independent study course run through an online system, I completely agree that distance learning is a crock of #### for 9/10 kids and most just slack off and don't meet you halfway on it.




(on a side note, the CDC themselves admitted that short term closures aren't effective either [https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...l-closure.pdf], so I don't know why we're doing this like it matters. Corona has been floating around the U.S. for months by some estimates.)
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We're closed for two weeks, then two weeks of Spring Break.

Specific directive- We don't have to deliver learning, are not to grade it, and kids can't be required to do it.

We are required to come in for three days to babysit while parents get child care figured out.

We will be paid for the two weeks.
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