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Old 03-06-2019, 01:38 PM
 
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Substitutes.....Have you ever been injured at the school that you worked...please describe your experience with that and did you have a good experience with workers compensation? Was it worth it to report it?


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Old 03-06-2019, 05:20 PM
 
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A few months ago, I fell and injured myself at school while on a subbing assignment there. I mentioned it to the school office, but I didn't want to deal with workers comp (because I was leary of ramifications), so I waited a few weeks before finally deciding I should formally report it to HR and file a claim.

My concerns were warranted. It's been a huge hassle...the district and their insurance have put up obstacles and tried to cut costs at my expense every turn of the way. I've had to fight to see a proper specialist and get a proper examination because the district's insurance was trying to restrict me to using only their designated drop-in emergency clinic!

The district HR also started to harass me with bogus negative performance reviews and then threatened to terminate my employment! I quit that district and decided to get a lawyer.

I wish I'd never needed to file for workers comp. I was able to work, so I didn't even ask for disability wages. But I needed workers comp to help pay for the medical examinations, xrays, MRIs, and treatment for the injury. The whole thing has been a real ordeal because that district is continually trying to cut costs using unethical practices.

If you are a sub, you are vulnerable and expendable. So if you have insurance and can manage without workers comp, I'd suggest not filing a claim. You never know whether the district might retaliate. It's illegal for them to do so, but as I have discovered, that doesn't stop some from trying!

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Old 03-06-2019, 07:32 PM
 
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I twisted my back really bad at a high school a few years ago and I reported it right away which was a good thing because two weeks later my back was so messed up ófortunately Workmenís Comp. sent me to physical therapy for almost a year and to a spine specialist to have everything imaged etc. and it all helped. I still have some residual pain on a fairly regular basis, but that being said, I do have the option to go back for more care in the future and be reevaluated if necessary, but right now Iím kind of just riding through it as Iím 60 and I guess I expect some of these things to happen in life. Additionally, a student knocked a chair over into my back last week and I filled out a report right away just in case anything occurs as a result of that incident, so far so good. The key is to report even if you think itís not necessary.
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Old 03-06-2019, 09:39 PM
 
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I can only speak about what I have seen. Last spring there was a substitute who was assaulted by a student that had an ankle bracelet. The teacher had warned the student multiple times to pull out their earbuds and he would not. The teacher went by and pulled on one of the earbuds out of his ear, and the student responded to him by knocking the teacher flat on his a$$. The teacher was knocked unconscious. He was then escorted off campus and asked not to return to the school. My understanding in theses situations is that there is no Workmenís Compensation and the district will not cover your bills medically and thereís no recourse other than the fact that some of the districts will offer medical insurance that is absolutely too expensive for a substitute teacher to actually purchase. I have seen and heard of several scenarios in different districts around Texas where teachers have been assaulted and they had to cover their own medical bills in some cases they were not able to do so. Iím not the final authority on the subject, but what Iíve heard is just not positive to say the least and Iím putting it nicely. Something needs to be done as far as security to keep people that are coming in these districts associate teach safe and there is not anything being done because people of gotten away with letting the students just run the school.
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Old 03-08-2019, 11:43 PM
 
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I have never been injured while working as a sub, but, knowing the district I work in, I suspect the powers that be would go to great lengths to prevent me or dissuade me from filing a claim or seeking treatment. My educated guess is based on having been told by a district administrator that I'm not a "real employee."


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Old 03-09-2019, 09:37 AM
 
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knowing the district I work in, I suspect the powers that be would go to great lengths to prevent me or dissuade me from filing a claim or seeking treatment.
Not just your district. It appears to be the trend. I'm really shocked to see even school districts flaunt the labor laws! This is a new low. Unfortunately, the erosion of ethics seems to be rampant in the business climate these days. It's become an "anything goes" mentality. I've read that it has to do with the trickle down and economic squeeze caused by the fed government's huge deficit.

I started to see signs of this erosion a few years ago when I worked for an international nonprofit. Their HR tried to force employees to take their PTO by the end of the month or have it taken away. That was a clear violation of CA state law. (I guess the organization thought they were exempt from state laws. Not.)

When I brought this up with one of my managers (thinking she would help), she instead started harassing me, trying to find grounds to fire me! Fortunately, my other manager blocked her, and HR backed down and decided to honor employees' legal right to keep our PTO. I like to take some credit for holding them accountable, but unfortunately it also almost cost me my job!

I think for us subs, these stories are a cautionary tale. We have to face the fact that regardless of how highly we may regard the value of our role, we are merely expendables in the districts' eyes. All I can advise is be well informed, know your rights, keep your eyes and ears open, and proceed with caution.

Know your state's labor laws regarding your employee rights, and read the district's employee manual, especially the parts about "performance reviews" and "disciplinary procedures." (You can usually download the employee manual from the district website or request a copy.) This will give you a heads up about the district's "blocking" practices and the treatment you will receive. Each district's procedures can be dramatically different. So be aware!

I recently applied to a nearby district to cut down on my driving. But I backed out after I encountered their unfriendly HR staff and I read their employee manual. They not only paid poorly, but they also had unreasonably punitive practices in place that warned me of a toxic workplace (e.g. termination of subs after only 2 complaints!). Be mindful that if a district terminates you, it could adversely impact your ability to renew your credential or apply to another district! It's no small matter! Too many red flags were waving about this district. I saved myself from wasting (an exorbitant) $68 on their background check and voted with my feet. Dodged a bullet on that one!

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