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Old 01-17-2019, 05:18 PM
 
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Aargh!!! Iím unsure what to do about some of my studentsí talking without permission. It seems like lately the more I instruct the fourth graders to stop talking, the more some of them talk!
I know I should keep them busy constantly in order to help with this talking...and the situation hopefully isnít as bad as it felt today...
Iím open to suggestions!


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Old 01-17-2019, 05:27 PM
 
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I wish I knew. My Kindergartners are driving me crazy!
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I have taught first and second grade and had the same problem. With my first graders it helped (a little) to turn it into a game. I would time them to see how long they could work quietly. I would then set a goal (certain number of minutes) for them and if they could reach that goal they would earn a reward.
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Old 01-17-2019, 06:51 PM
 
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The timer is my faithful friend. When they see me take my phone from my pocket, they know the stopwatch is starting. I told them day one that me having my phone in my hand means I'm clocking the moments of my time that are being wasted, and I WILL get this time back. So when recess starts, they are told to stand in a line, and I get my wasted time back by making them wait on me to release them to play.

One by one, I tap each student on the shoulder to let them go. The good ones go without much of a wait. But the constant offenders get a speech about why they are still standing there. They know that an internal annoyance meter has found them lacking, and their free time is being eaten up by their disrespect.
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:25 PM
 
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Talkers get a post-it note on their desktop. You roam the room...anyone who talks without permission gets a checkmark on the post-it. Two/Three checks and child is late for lunch/recess.

Pretty soon your talkers with post-its on their desktop will think twice before talking.


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Old 01-18-2019, 12:16 PM
 
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Excellent advice so far!

I also sometimes recommend soft background noise (like music with no words) in really chatty classes. Sometimes I think they talk because they can't handle the silence.
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1. Duct tape is used to fix almost every problem where I live. It'd be highly effective, but I am afraid with the ways schools are, you'd get fired.
2. This really works for me about 80% of the time. When I feel myself getting beyond annoyed by constant chatter, I look around and usually pick 2-3 kids. I make a huge, but quiet to do about how respectful they are. Then I grant them access to all kinds of extra privileges, much to the chagrin of the loud talkers.

They usually tone down to see what these 3 kids are getting to do. I even excuse their assignments quietly. No one is learning during that time anyway.

I have had times, I haven't had any quiet ones and had to just pick the ones who were least likely to have been heard.
Then I let the others know that they too can have these if they pay attention or get done quietly.

They very seldom have time because they wasted too much talking and I do not give them much time to make it up. It is possible though.

3. 10% of the time it doesn't work, it is usually because I forget and start harping on them which only makes it worse.
4. For the kids who still do not stop, I move them away from anyone. I have them write about what they did, what they should have been doing, and how they will do better next time.
If they have any fear of their parents, I pull them in the hall and tell them that I am going to file their paper for parent conferences, but that I will ditch it next week if I don't see the problem again that week. It helps a lot with kids whose parents care.
There are many parents who do not discipline their kids. The last 10% at least. Once I reign in all I can, I keep those disruptive types sitting where they are less likely to bother anyone.
We teach in tough times.
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not allowed to take recess
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I would subscribe to the "trade the time you should have used to work" idea. It's a natural consequence: Work first-play later.

We aren't allowed to withhold recess, and late for lunch causes problems for the lunch workers.

The closest I can get is to have students finish work while the finishers get to work with my robots. So, I try to find a preferred activity, keep track of who competed the necessary tasks, and organize their "tasks" accordingly.
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Many Thanks!!!
Old 01-19-2019, 01:48 PM
 
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Thank you all for your suggestions and encouragement. I am taking your words to heart.
I will keep working on this challenge in my classroom.
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