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Old 02-28-2013, 04:39 PM
 
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I have been asked to give an inservice on literacy and math stations during our summer workshops (with another teacher). My co-worker and I have complete opposite ideas of how we want to do this. My 2 big peeves with workshops/training/etc. are:
1. having to play games- just give me the information.
2. having the presenter change your seat 10 minutes into the presentation- I chose my seat and it is probably sitting with people I know and want to sit with, I am an adult, I don't want an assigned seat!

My partner thinks we should do both of these!! What do you prefer- sitting and getting information or being involved?

I had planned to give the examples/research (yea!)/needed information and then spend the rest of the time making materials and planning. We will provide materials, but I also plan to send out an overview of what we will be making so people can bring their own folders/theme paper/colors/etc if they want to match existing themes or colors.


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I hate game playing and have never heard of having to switch seats. I agree with you, don't do those 2 things!
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It might be strange but I'm with you! I'd just like to hear the information and I'd like to sit with who I choose.
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I am with you - no silly games and let me sit where I want. Stop trying to take me out of my comfort zone.
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:52 PM
 
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No games, stay in my seat. But I would like to spend time making something I could actually use in my class, specifically a rotation chart or center expectation posters.


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I am with you. I hate the games, I hate the moving. I think presentations should be engaging and relevant and I hate the time wasted doing all sorts of silly things. When I am forced to do that I tune out the rest of the stuff because I am focused on how annoyed I am.
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Most people I talk to seem to agree with me, but I thought maybe they are just agreeing but really like the games, etc.

I have been to many conferences and the presenter demonstrates how to mix up partners. I get so irratated when I have to pack up my stuff and move to sit with strangers!!
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or seat shuffling. Waste my time with any kind of games and/or unneeded seat shuffling and I will shuffle right out of there.

If I need to move to work with grade level people or content area people then tell me the minute I walk in and have tables/spaces labeled as such.
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Old 02-28-2013, 05:31 PM
 
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No moving and definitely no games. I also hate to be read to; I'm an adult educator--I'm pretty sure I can read the slide you've posted on my own. Please explain the highlights while I follow along.
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I want MY seat....
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I get there early. Often times some seats are more desirable. I want to sit with a clear view of the smartboard/screen/demonstration area. I do not want to sit with my back to the presenter. I really resent having to give up my preferred seat to play silly "change your seat" games. I also don't want to roam the room writing on chart paper posted at various intervals with my group. I don't want to create a chart and present my information to the group.

I WOULD appreciate taking stuff back to my classroom that I could use immediately. I would appreciate having some idea of what you're doing so that I could bring my own materials, if necessary. For example, I don't put my file folder games into actual file folders. I put them in laminated manilla envelopes. I'd much rather make something that will go with my stuff.


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I hate ice breakers/cutesy "getting to know you games". I also hate partner work of any kind, especially "turn to the person next to you and discuss this." And don't get me started on having to take my valuable time to "sign up" a series of partners for later.

I went to a session on Common Core once when I really didn't know anything about it walking in. After two hours of cartoons and music parodies, I knew even less walking out! The best workshops refresh my memory or give me something new I can use right away.
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I don't mind playing the games if they are quick and just to make sure that we know what the kids should do. (I could take them or leave them.) I agree that switching seats is beyond annoying!!!

Good luck with everything.
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One thing I like to do when I do "make and take" workshops is to give participants a choice of what to make. That way, participants who are already using the method I'm talking about aren't stuck making something they already have; they can work on more advanced materials while the "newbies" create the basics for their classrooms.

Oh, and no games and no switching my seat. My principal LOVES doing games and it just really annoys me!
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I partially agree
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I don't like playing games (unless there is a nifty prize), but I do like changing seats. I have met some really interesting people and been able to do some networking that way. What I absolutely hate....are powerpoint presentations!
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I hate the group work and little "assignments". Leave me alone, let me listen, allow us to ask questions, and talk to EACH OTHER about how use whatever we're learning about in the classroom.
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I'm with you, OCEANKA.
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As a former reading specialist/literacy coach I agree with many of the above comments.

However... I hated it when teachers talked, texted, graded papers, returned late, and/or complained that it wouldn't work in their school.
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No silly games and seat switching. However, give them a lot of time to turn and talk, especially when presented with new ideas and concepts. I hate inservices that are all listen, listen, listen with no opportunity to talk.
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I guess I am confused. Are you talking about pointless games or actual games for the math or literacy stations?

I don't want to do any pointless games.
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Old 02-28-2013, 07:54 PM
 
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I hate when they treat you like elementary kids...we are all grown ups with degrees!! Stop making us do stupid things!!
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PS I love your idea!! Can I come to your in service?
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Moving seats?
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Why not put up signs where to sit so that participants sit where you want them to from the start?

I can't hear very well, so I always sit up front, and it would p*ss me off to be told to move.
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I'm just a sub but whenever I'm in a long-term position I'm required to attend in-service events...I HATE the games and switching seats!! So asinine and belittling.
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Silly games...no but testing out the activity to see how it works and being able to discuss and ask questions about it with my colleagues is great. I don't mind switching seats as it creates new dialogue because people might get to know other people better.
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The only time playing games has worked for me was when we were asked to try out the activity we'd be doing with our kids - and our version was just an abbreviated opportunity to see which parts might require additional guidance or practice.

Please don't treat me like one of my students. My attention span is longer and I actually enjoy lectures, provided the information is relevant. I wish more inservice presenters would use TED talks, rather than our classrooms, as their instructional models.
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Just give me the info and forget the fun and games. As to changing my seat, forget about it!
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I also agree with some others that the annoying behavior of the audience is a problem. Does anyone have suggestions on how to make the class cell phone and texting free?
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I too pick my seat carefully based on what I view as "best" (right now, that's near the door as I'm pregnant and go to the bathroom a lot!). I don't like having to move.

I hate "get to know the group" games--unless we'll be meeting regularly over a long period. But for a 1 day event, I don't really care what the others do. If as a presenter, you need to know grade levels or experience, have us write it on the sign in sheet.

Games, if played, need to be just briefly demonstrating a game we'll do with the kids. A lot of times, though, simply watching the presenter do the game is fine.

I also hate when presenters start a topic with something like "what do you think researchers found were the top 5 distracters during tests" and have people call out for several minutes. Just tell me! If you want the audience to share, I'd rather talk with a partner, or make it useful "like, so those were my classroom management ideas, does anyone have anything they use in that class that really works?"
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My partner is so convinced this will be fun. But maybe I will show her this poll. I was thinking we could compromise on the 'games' and have a demonstration (volunteers) if it is easier than explain something, but not everyone playing a station games- I think they can figure them out!!

And I am not compromising on the seat thing.
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I was thinking we could compromise on the 'games' and have a demonstration (volunteers)
This would be okay because I'd NEVER volunteer. Hope you get your way and it is a good, useful time!
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I am with you. The games I tollarate if I must but please don't make me change my seat. I usually sit with my coworkers so that we can discuss how this relates to our school. Many times I share with my coworkers ideas or supplies that I already have that will make X work.
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It would depend on the game and the relevance of it to the training. I do not mind changing seats for specific activities and then return to my seat afterwards. I would not want to sit with strangers for the entire training if a bunch of people I work with and know are also there.
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or what I always called "forced fun" is really irritating and I've never heard of switching seats. That would bother me as well. I choose my seat carefully. I need to sit with no one else behind me. I have misophonia which causes me to be very distracted when people are making any kind of noise behind me (gum chewing, pencil tapping, etc..)

Please don't ask questions with obvious answers and expect the group to chime in. Treat them like the professionals they are, but I do agree with others who request some type of brain break and time to make and take something they can actually use.

Perhaps your co-worker can stick to passing out materials and leave the presentation to you.
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I don't like cutesy games. However I constantly make people move. My reason is exactly what someone said, sit with people from your school, your grade level. My thinking is you talk to those people every day, maybe some different opinions or ideas would be good.

What annoys me is when the training is set up in a specific way, like groups of four, and people come in and move stuff and chairs and end up with 8 people crammed in where four should be and there are tables with only two or three. If I set it up that way there's a reason. I just think it's rude to the people who have spent time planning and setting up their materials.
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NIX on CHART PAPER!
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Yes.... I hate those "get to know you games".... like if you could be a made for tv movie, what would your title be??? And I hate hate hate PD when the leader divides us into groups and makes us write our ideas on chart paper..... then we post it on the wall........then one of us has to present our ideas to the rest of the group. That process takes at least an hour. And nothing is really accomplished!!! Our district has paid presenters THE BIG BUCKS to do a workshop... and when they have that chart paper out I know it's going to be a waste of time! YES! GIVE us the ideas with videos or concrete examples. Put people in grade level groups and have them discuss questions or ideas. Do it in a creative way that is FUN! And never put anyone on the spot! OCEANKA, in your original post you stated what would be my IDEAL PD day!! Partner, let her have her way! We're behind her!!!!!!!
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I don't mind games. I don't mind moving around as long as I can come back to my seat.
I think playing games or doing something is a lot better than someone reading from a pover point or prezi presentation the entire time. I don't like it when people talk si loudly that it is super rude when someone is speaking or presenting. For that reason I don't try to sit with people who will talk very loud during presentations. Pass a note if u have to is my thought.
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what we hate but ask our students to do
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Most of us do games and movement activities in class.Many of our students hate it to but we have them do it anyway. We as teachers are sometimes bad stdents.
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I hate playing games and I hate moving seats. I also hate "forced participation". I went to an inservice a few weeks ago where the presenter had us all write our names on index cards, then took them up and asked questions at random during the session. To me, it is an individual's business if they want to pay attention to what is being presented or not.
The "games" (particularly writing on a piece of chart paper and presenting your ideas) are just lame time fillers for people who really don't know what/how to present and are getting the audience to do it for them.
Also, I am currently pregnant and I must sit on the end of an aisle or be forced to climb over strangers every 20 minutes. I am also too large at this point to "squeeze" so that people can get past me.
I worked with a woman who had blood clots in her legs that HAD to sit near the back so she could get up and walk around every so often. I think presenters often forget that not everyone is willing and able to get up and move around.
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I agree I do not like playing games and switching seats. I appreciate visuals, things that are relevant to my grade/content, and a couple strategically placed breaks. I also like make & takes.
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I agree . Hate the games and changing seats or tables. Don't even like the pair and share stuff. Like "talk to someone at your table about this last concept and what you learned." Most of us don't want to be there and want to play games even less.
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As a staff developer and consultant, I speak at many conferences and professional development events, so I frequently lurk on sites like this because it's important for me to know what works for teachers and what doesn't. I agree with much of what has been said, but I'm not surprised to see some people like games, some don't; some people like turn and talk, some don't, etc. I'm of the "don't make me move or play games, but let me turn and talk" variety. Let's face it, sometimes we learn a lot more from the discussion with others around us than from the presentation!

However, if I may add a presenter pet peeve, it is people who move eight or ten chairs to a table that has been set for four or six for a reason! Please feel free to sit with your friend or couple or friends, but you may not be able to sit with your entire faculty at the same table

That said, I think all of us on both sides of the projector need to remember that we are all adults and professionals and we need to treat one another with common courtesy.

Good luck to Oceanka and your partner! It sounds like you've got a great inservice planned.
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