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Old 07-22-2012, 04:15 AM
 
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Hello - I transferred to another school and am in 4th grade, now, after having taught 3rd for 6 years. I'd love to know which concepts you think are most difficult for 4th and might need extra attention. Oh, and we're rolling out Common Core this year across our school system. Lots of changes, but I'm very excited.


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Long division and two-digit by two-digit multiplication are the two concepts my kids struggle with the most every year.
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Old 07-22-2012, 06:47 PM
 
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First, I just want to say, "I LOVE teaching 4th grade!!" I agree with the previous person- 2x2 multiplication and long division are very challenging math skills for students. Also, my students seem to have difficulty with multi-step word problems.
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New to 4th too!
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I'm also about to teach fourth grade for the first time! Had PreK for one year and third grade for two years. Teaching third grade has given me a great idea of where the students should be and what comes next, but there's also so much that I can't wait to learn!
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Old 07-23-2012, 04:25 AM
 
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I was moved up last year from 3rd (after 12 years) to 4th. I definitely think the math is much more difficult than 3rd grade. Mostly the reading and language is just building on what they already know, but we had soooooo many kids that didn't have a good grasp on their basic facts (even addition and subtraction!) and it really affected how they could do the higher level skills. We would even have "cheat sheets" for the long division with the steps laid out, and they can do it when you walk them through it, but once you just give them the problem and they have to do it from step one on their own, they just couldn't follow the step-by-step instructions! It was very frustrating!


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agree with pp
Old 07-23-2012, 05:39 AM
 
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long division was a struggle! We spent a day making "Dead Monkeys Smell Bad" posters to help remind them the steps. It seemed to work, grossed out a few other teachers and kids with the posters on display in the hall, but it worked! *No blood/guts were allowed on the posters*

Also my kids struggled with simplifying fractions.
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difficult for 4th
Old 07-23-2012, 06:26 AM
 
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My kids always struggle with writing a summary for their reading and also using references from text to support answers in reading. In math it is basic facts and fraction concepts and elapsed time.
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I have a 4th, 5th grade class this year. I'm new to 4th, what does "Dead monkeys...." stand for?
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Dead Monkeys....
Old 07-24-2012, 09:11 PM
 
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It's an acronym to help students remember the steps of long division. Another acronym that kids like is Does McDonald's Sell Burgers. The last two years I would play the song We Are Family by Sister Sledge and teach the steps as members of the family:

Dad says to Divide
Mom says to Multiply
Sister says to Subtract
Brother says to Bring it Down
Rover (the pet dog) says to Repeat or write the Remainder

Can anyone think of other cute acronyms to use for long division?
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Does Mcdonalds Sell CheeseBurgers?
Old 07-25-2012, 09:53 AM
 
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I've always used Does McDonalds Sell Cheese Burgers in class.

D = divide
M = multiply
S = subtract
C = check (is the difference less than the divisor or number you're dividing by?)
B = bring down

Then they know to repeat the process. I really like how this one adds in the C for check, as it prevents students from getting lost - they know to change their D, and repeat the steps again.

Also, at the end of our Long Division unit, I usually ask my kids to bring in $1 and I have my room mother get McDonalds cheeseburgers for all of the kids and we have a divison party!


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