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Old 03-25-2019, 03:35 PM
 
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for subs who cancel at the last minute! I took a personal day today. I had asked a couple of subs that I knew if they were available, but they weren't, so I put my absence in the system a week ago. It was immediately picked up. I've been checking the sub system EVERY DAY, and it was still claimed by this one individual. I even checked LAST NIGHT before I went to bed, and yup, still claimed. This morning, I checked again, and, sure enough, the sub had canceled at 3:45 a.m. I texted our school secretary, but I don't think she was able to find a sub. She had to pull our reading specialist for the morning; I don't know what happened this afternoon.

Has this ever happened to you?


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Especially if it's a half day job. They'll pick up the job, and cancel at the last minute for a full day.
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It is annoying when a sub cancels at the last minute. It happened to me once or twice when I was teaching. It didn't bother me all that much. I figured that I did my job by getting my leave approved and notifying school that I wouldn't be there on a particular day.

I had no control over whether a sub canceled the assignment. It was up to the school, and not me, to find coverage for my students if a sub canceled.

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Yes, it happens at my school also. It drives us crazy. As soon as a better job comes up, they cancel. Of course, admin can't penalize the sub because we are so hard-up for subs. There's never enough!
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I always felt I did my part by putting in the absence. If no one claimed it or backed out....not my circus.


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That's very meticulous of you to keep checking like you did, but teachers who need subs shouldn't have to be checking daily and every hourly like that. That's stressful and a hassle too. Is that what teachers have to do in your district? Once you request a sub, can't you just wash your hands of it?

Well, speaking from both sides of the coin, having been a sub AND a teacher before, I personally never canceled at the last minute like that when I was a sub. I wouldn't do that personally.
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Itís our job to let them know of the leave. The office finds the sub.

Iíve had one secretary say I canít find a sub, so...
And I just go, well, I wonít be here, so hopefully, it works out!

Iíd feel bad, but I rarely called out without warning. It does happen, but I try to avoid it.

It may be a lost day instruction-wise, but theyíll be happy to see you!
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If she cancelled in the middle of the night she may have been quite ill. Stuff happens, even to subs.
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Our District doesn't allow subs to pick up a different job if they cancel within 48 hours of the planned day. It really does cut down on subs canceling if it isn't an emergency.
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Same thought as PP, 3:45 seems an odd time to cancel unless she was up at that time due to illness.


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Old 03-25-2019, 06:25 PM
 
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That's so frustrating, but it's not your fault! You did more than your due diligence for sure.
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My last sub canceled, but luckily the job was picked up by another regular sub who is familiar with my classes and teaching style. I always wonder if this will happen when it is a sub who is new to our building - but, to be honest, I really don't worry too much about it. I did my part in putting in my sub request. A last-minute cancellation is an issue for the office but not for me.
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I can't chaperone kids on a field trip on Friday unless the sub picks up my job. It's somehow my fault that they canceled.
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I certainly understand your frustration. A last minute cancellation does mess things up for you. Previous posters are correct that most likely the sub got sick in the middle of the night. I know that I always mumble a few choice words when I receive a notice that a job has been canceled the night before the date, especially when I have turned down other teachers for that day.

Yes, in my district, if you cancel a job for any reason, at any point, you are blocked from subbing at all for that day.
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Old 03-26-2019, 02:15 AM
 
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We had THREE subs cancel at the last minute last week for our building! The three fifth grade teachers, then the three fourth grade teachers,including me, were supposed to go to a half-day training in our district ( so full day for subs). It was the third day of our training this year and none of us got to go. The district paid this person a lot of money to train us this year and six of us weren't there for the last day.
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Old 03-26-2019, 04:54 AM
 
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All you can do is your part. You put in for the sub well in advance. There should be record of that.

All I gotta say is that there's no way in ____ I would want to be a sub nowadays. I think I'd rather try for President of the USA.
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I fully understand your frustration. It's just stops at the substitutes go to hell part . I substitute right now. The canceling goes both ways, and boy do I know. We also can't always work for a variety of reasons. A few times throughout the year, I needed a mental health day too after having too many first day jobs or got emotionally abused by staff or students. I can’t predict those days along with other stuff that happens in life. I try my best not to cancel last minute, but sometimes I can't be their emotionally or physically. I understand you're venting, but I wanted share my perspective. I hope most of your jobs don't get canceled and the same for me, bye.

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I had it happen as a teacher. They had to fill in with people on planning periods all day. I was SO sick. Another time, they got a sub who blew a gym whistle at my 8th graders all day. She was banned from the school. I sub now, and twice this year, I've had to give up planning periods to fill in. AND once I was moved to that teacher's position, and teachers filled in for my half day roving position. That was fine, as I wanted a full day anyway. As a sub, I hate it, because working all day with only a half hour lunch break stinks.
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Subs can get sick like anyone else. It does such if they're just picking up another job, but I'd give the benefit of the doubt. Life happens.
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With that odd cancellation time, I'm willing to bet the sub got sick - or her kid did.

We're not allowed to cancel one job and book another.

(Also, on the very rare occasions I've had to cancel over the years, I've always called the office and let the secretary know, not just canceled on the system.)
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Is when it was planned out months in advance and they cancel a week before.
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Guess what, life happens. I’ve cancelled in the middle of the night when my daughter had an asthma attack that we couldn’t get control of. Did I feel bad yes, but not much I could do about it. I ve been cancelled on jobs I’ve had blocked out for months, life happens. I’ve subbed for the past 12 years it is a thankless job even for schools you have pulled out of last minute bad situations. As a sub I have had to take on part of classes where the sub cancelled or they could not find one. When this happens to a regular teacher here, they get paid extra. As a sub I do not, and I get to deal with a classs of 40 students. I work in a district that is so short of subs you’d think there might be some appreciation and a bit of professional respect, but alas there is none. H@#l indeed.

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I used to sub before I taught full time. Now Iím retired and would not sub for any reason. Canceling at 3:45 am probably means they were sick or had a sick kid. Subs are not appreciated. No wonder no one wants to do it.
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The subs in our district are notorious for picking up a job and cancelling if a ďbetterĒ one comes up. I put in for a job and had 5 subs pick it up and cancel. I was ticked.
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I don't get upset when a sub cancels, that's the nature of a temp job, sometimes things just come up. When things are last minute, it goes both ways.
However, there have been a couple of subs at my school who have done this repeatedly and the secretary finally gave up on them and dropped them. One I think is just flaky, the other one had a legitimate grips against the school ( which I agreed with, but not sure why he kept accepting jobs if he didn't plan on coming back anymore.
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Yep, and it doesnít bother me at all.
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*I meant to reply to Tapdancesub, but I messed up somehow.*

I do have great days. There are some schools that are very helpful and appreciative. If you sub there enough, they make you feel a part of the school. However, there are times subbing can really be a thankless job. I don't take last minute jobs that people call me for that reason anymore. My last one was awful and not because of the students. The teachers were not appreciative, not very helpful, made me feel like I was bothering them, and said unkind things about subs. I got physically hurt (deep cut) trying to get there quickly and decided to not cancel because I gave my word--that was a mistake. I should have gone to the hospital and got stiches, but I did not realize the gravity of the cut until later on in the day. It's a no benefits job, so I more so have to put myself first.

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I have many good days also, and have 4/6 schools that I cover regurlarly. I also donít take last minute jobs at schools I am unfamiliar with. But I am also just a sub, someone to dump extra duty on, switch assignments on once I get to school (we know you can handle Mrs. x class, rather than the sub who took the job) when they know I avoid Mrs x class like the plague. I enjoy that I cover schools that Iíve followed this years 5th graders since they were in K. I just felt I needed to point out some realities of this job. I hope u had no long term problem due to your injury.
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Oh come on! As others said, life happens. Iíve woken up sick around that time and canceled a job. I live in a district where jobs will get picked up as soon as they go back on Aesop. I donít like to do it, but itís better than waiting till the office opens and calling them up.

As for it being a two way street, I canít count how many times Iíve accepted multi days jobs and had them canceled and no one gives me a reason. This is usually the night before and then Iím scrambling to find another job. Maybe itís time to start respecting subs more.
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Thanks for the kind words about the injury. I slipped in the bathtub and fell on the soap dish that cut deep into my skin. I accepted a last-minute job from the office that morning, and I was rushing to get there not too long after the bell. I should have canceled after the injury and got stitches. I had major regret after bleeding on my pants and hearing the teachers complain about subs given from the office and not wanting one. I wished I put myself first that day. That's why I no longer take last minute jobs. There is more to that story that made me feel unappreciated and not valued before I got that morning job that stems around canceling, but I'm going to stop here. I'm just going to say canceling jobs on both ends can be hurtful at times. It comes with the territory of subbing or finding a sub. I am looking forward to moving on from subbing because I want to feel fulfilled and reaching my full potential. If you pray for others, please say a pray for me. I thought teaching would be it, but it wasn't for me. I tried hard to get into teaching, but I did not get the right opportunities. Reading the reactivation for subbing reminded me so many times how lowering and demeaning this job can be. There are some things I wish I could offer my input on to do my best for the students.
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