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Old 05-01-2019, 08:20 PM
 
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One day last week, one of my coworkers overslept. At about 8:15, we noticed he was missing and our HOD called and woke him up. I volunteered to cover his class from 8:40-9:36 b/c I was free 1st period. He strolls in around 9:20. His classroom is across from the office so I could see him. I went to the office and let him know what his class was doing, thinking he would come over and get them. He proceeds to make himself breakfast saying he had not eaten yet. He also had a free period during period 2.

My feeling was he should have taken his class immediately when he came in and either skipped breakfast or eaten in 2nd period. My question is when you have someone covering your class, do you take over immediately upon return or let the person finish the class (I'm not talking about a paid substitute)?

*This is his 2nd time oversleeping this year.


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Old 05-01-2019, 08:48 PM
 
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Not!
His supervisor needs to make it clear that he can't get away with that again.

I've never head of anyone being late to school for oversleeping. I think I'd lose my job!

I would cover for a co-worker in most situations, but if someone left me on their class during my planning time (while they were eating!) I wouldn't be covering them again. Unless there's medical issues involved

Strange.
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Old 05-01-2019, 10:14 PM
 
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His supervisor needs to make it clear that he can't get away with that again.

I've never head of anyone being late to school for oversleeping. I think I'd lose my job!

I would cover for a co-worker in most situations, but if someone left me on their class during my planning time (while they were eating!) I wouldn't be covering them again. Unless there's medical issues involved

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Right. I know people oversleep for whatever reason.It's never happened to me but I guess it can happen. I get that. But, you are right. I will not volunteer again for him again. I was when he told me he had to eat breakfast, considering he had a free period next. And, I didn't. He did say "thanks". So, at least there was that. lol. People are VERY interesting.
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Old 05-01-2019, 10:23 PM
 
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I mean, life happens, so once in awhile, someone is going to be running late and you should do your best to help them out. But he shouldn't stroll in like he's on holiday, he should be dashing to his classroom yelling apologies.

I've never been late to school, but when I've had someone cover my class so I could pop out for an appointment, I've always hurried back to my classroom. If the person was being paid for an hour or whatever, I might wait until the hour was over, so as not to interrupt or step on the sub's toes.
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I know people oversleep for whatever reason. It's never happened to me but I guess it can happen.
I realised after I posted that maybe I was being a bit hypocritical, as I remembered this did actually happen to me once. I was 18, and it was a job that paid below minimum wage- in cash!- but it happened. I was mortified and they never offered me work again, which is fair enough I guess.

So yeah, it can happen. Doesn't mean you should be wearing the consequences while the guilty party enjoys brunch


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Old 05-02-2019, 03:18 AM
 
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I've never head of anyone being late to school for oversleeping. I think I'd lose my job!
I would hope not, because it can happen! I actually accidentally overslept for a teaching job once. But I can assure you, I got there as soon as possible, and did not make my breakfast before returning to my class!

The only thing I can think of is maybe he's diabetic in which case he would need to eat, but that doesn't seem to be the case as he probably would have said so or eaten before he came (or as another option chose something that he could eat in class).

So weird! The fact that this is not the first time shows that he needs to change something!
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It happens. The alarm doesnít go off, the powers does. We sleep through it. It does happen.

However, when it does, you hop to. Get yourself to school as quickly as possible, and get to work.

Iíve never done that, but Iíve had two close calls. One while student teaching, but it was a day my CT was my ride. She happened to call and say she was running late. Lucky for me! Fastest Iíve ever gotten ready.

The second time my supervisor happened to call. She was at a conference in a different time zone and got confused. Again, lucky for me.

It happened to the gym teacher last year. He has a daughter who is dependent on him; she has severe disabilities and she had been up all night. He was just asleep from exhaustion when someone realized he was missing! They just got him a sub.

Earlier this year another teacher had overslept, but she called to say she was on her way. She made it just a couple minutes after first bell.

These incidents happen. We can understand it. But the way your coworker lackadaisically assumes he could putter around for the first chunk of the day is inexcusable. Hopefully someone has a chat with him about that. And, I probably would avoid covering his class again.
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Old 05-02-2019, 05:40 AM
 
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It happened to my team mate. I stood in the hall and covered both our classes while the office called her emergency contacts and I blew up her phone. She strolled in almost an hour late. Our P told her it could happen to anyone and not to worry. If it had been me, I would have needed union representation, but whatever.
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He should have offered to take your class during his free 2nd period or brought you a special snack/gift the following day!
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And this is his second chance? Ha! You made a monster!

Also, there is a possibility that he has diabetics and needs to have some form of food or he will pass out.


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It definitely can happen, but he should have been in hyperspeed to grab his class. What a jerk.

I hate when someone is late to school and they show up with a McDonalds or Dunkin drink. Umm you were running late and thought it was ok to stop for a drink. No, not okay.
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No question he should have come right over. I would have been mortified that I overslept, especially if it was the second time this year. My principal would have been all over this, also, especially since it was the second time. People like that give teachers a bad name.
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Old 05-02-2019, 02:20 PM
 
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I worked with a guy who did this all the time. He's still out there teaching. I would be horrified.
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Old 05-02-2019, 05:48 PM
 
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I'd have said, "Oh good, you're here. I'm going back to my prep," and walked away. That's bullsh!t.
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Old 05-02-2019, 06:37 PM
 
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You have GOT to be kidding me! That is beyond ridiculous. He could have waited another 20 minutes to eat. He should have offered to take your class 2nd period as well. I wouldn't be helping him again in the future.
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"Oh good, you're here. I'm going back to my prep,
Yes! That's what I should have said now that I think about it.

To all those saying he might be diabetic- no. Unless he has a very recent diagnosis. I've worked with him for several years but only the last 2 have been in the same department.
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Definitely unacceptable. I can't fathom how anyone would have the nerve to do that!

I've actually overslept twice . Once was my first year of teaching. I fell asleep on the couch before my normal bedtime and didn't wake up until the next morning, so I hadn't gotten ready for bed or set an alarm or anything. I woke up literally as school was starting. Since I wasn't a classroom teacher, it wasn't a huge deal. I remember talking about it with the other teachers at happy hour that night and everyone laughing about it.

The other time was during summer school when I did have a class. I was so tired that I'd turned off my alarm and went back to sleep without realizing it. I woke up when the summer school P called me to ask if I was okay. I literally threw on some clothes and got in the car- thankfully my commute was only about 10 minutes and the summer school P was nice about it.

Now I literally set 5-6 alarms to go off every 5 minutes in the morning so I can't sleep through it. I have a really hard time getting to sleep, and often I've just fallen into a deep sleep shortly before I'm supposed to be getting up .
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This is totally off topic, but Haley your alarm sitch sounds JUST like my husband! I got him an alarm with a light that mimics the sun rising and holy cow, he gets up. I finally found an alarm that works for someone who sleeps like the dead.
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Wow. Yes, anyone can oversleep but, in my world, oversleeping means really needing to hustle to get out the door and, possibly, arriving at work 10-15 minutes past the contracted start time. I learned the need for redundant and battery operated alarms when I was still in high school. I really can't imagine oversleeping to the point that I missed my first class.

As to needing breakfast because he's diabetic, nope. I'm diabetic and I can tell you that if I'm worried about going low I'm definitely going to eat something or, more likely, drink something (faster absorption) before I get into the car to drive to work. I'm certainly not going to risk passing out while driving.

He sounds immature and irresponsible and heck if I'd be his enabler.
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Old 05-03-2019, 09:13 PM
 
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He was wrong. He should have thanked you profusely as he hurried to take over his class. He knew he could get breakfast 2nd period. Ungrateful.
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