[thruachild'sI]

OK I've just about began to think I dreamed these pens up. I am looking for the very fine point visa visa overhead pens. They are not the fine tip - I'm not sure exactly what they are - but they are very very thin. The fine tip are too wide to write in the maps that I have and I had used the skinner ones at one of the school I subbed at. But apparently no one has any and the secretaries look at me as if I'm crazy.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about or where to find these pens?

[roo]

It might help if you were looking for vis-a-vis markers (instead of visa visa). Here's a link to them at Staples http://www.staples.com/Expo-Vis-A-Vi...product_125310

and I know they're commonly available at most office supply stores and through their catalogs.

[thruachild'sI]

to do too many things at one time. Yes I meant vis-a-vis markers. The ones you posted are the ones I have. I'm looking for ones that have an even finer point. They look more like a ball point pen

[snickydog]

Try these Lumocolor ones...

http://www.misterart.com/g7423/Staed...on-Markers.htm

I used to have them when I taught upper grades and really liked them. Be sure to get the non-permanent. The superfine are VERY fine - like ballpoint pen thin - but the fine are better for classroom use.

[techietch22]

you want the very fine vis-a-vis