Book Leveling-What's the difference between AR (ATOS), gr. level, Fountas and Pinnell - ProTeacher Community





Home Join Now Search My Favorites
Help


      Primary Grades (K-2)

Book Leveling-What's the difference between AR (ATOS), gr. level, Fountas and Pinnell

>

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Jenn3242 Jenn3242 is offline
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 69

Jenn3242
Junior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 69
Book Leveling-What's the difference between AR (ATOS), gr. level, Fountas and Pinnell
Old 03-17-2010, 09:35 AM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #1

I am trying to level all of my books in my class library and make an excel spreadsheet of all my books and their levels. I am having difficulty understanding the difference between all the different leveling systems out there. We use AR at our school, which has its own ATOS leveling system, from what I understand. Scholastic also has a leveling system on their website, that'll give you the book level for any book title you type in...however, those do not match up at all with the ATOS level, or AR level. Then, there is the Fountas and Pinnell guided reading level, which are letter levels, and those do not seem to clearly match up depening on whether I use the ATOS or scholastic level.

Example: "Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs" is a 4.3 level according to ATOS or AR. However, it is a 3.2, according to Scholastic...which I think is more of it's grade level? The really confusing part, is that if using a conversion chart from AR levels to fountas and pinnell, it says it should be level R for guided reading, but according to scholastic it's a level N or something way different. I am so confused! How are these levels made? What are they based off of? What should I use? How can I accurately find the fountas and pinnell levels for books??

Thank you sooooo much to anyone who helps!! I am extremely confused and overwhelmed!!

Jenny


Jenn3242 is offline   Reply With Quote


ReadingFan ReadingFan is offline
Full Member
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 107

ReadingFan
Full Member
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 107
leveling books
Old 03-17-2010, 11:31 AM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #2

The leveling systems are confusing to everyone. The problem is that they all use different criteria for leveling. As a reading specialist for 15 years, I have worked with many different systems. I do not think AR levels are very accurate. If I were you, I would stick with the Guided Reading levels (Fountas and Pinnell). It seems to be a system that will endure. It seems to be more accurate than grade level, which does not mean a lot when children are struggling readers. You can find GR levels on the publishers' websites many times. If you search for books on Scholastic's Book Wizard, you can set the leveling system to Guided Reading, and all the results will have that designation.

Yes, sometimes you will get conflicting GR levels from different sources, but I have not found that very often. It is not an exact science.

I hope this helps and answers some of your questions.
ReadingFan is offline   Reply With Quote
mom23kids's Avatar
mom23kids mom23kids is offline
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 7,148

mom23kids
Senior Member
 
mom23kids's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 7,148
not to confuse you more but..
Old 03-17-2010, 12:57 PM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #3

Leveled Book List

Do you have this one?
mom23kids is offline   Reply With Quote
jaimetonello's Avatar
jaimetonello jaimetonello is offline
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 72

jaimetonello
Junior Member
 
jaimetonello's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 72

Old 03-20-2010, 06:00 PM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #4

I love the fountas & pinnell system, it seems to be the most accurate. You can purchase the fountas and pinnell levelling book for about $50 or you can buy rights to the website to type in the books you want to level.
jaimetonello is offline   Reply With Quote
illinoisteach's Avatar
illinoisteach illinoisteach is offline
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,322

illinoisteach
Senior Member
 
illinoisteach's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,322
try this
Old 03-21-2010, 02:08 PM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #5

I use this website to level my books. It gives you the Lexile measure, DRA, and Guided Reading level.

http://bookwizard.scholastic.com/tbw/homePage.do


illinoisteach is offline   Reply With Quote
readerabbit's Avatar
readerabbit readerabbit is offline
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,620

readerabbit
Senior Member
 
readerabbit's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,620
not to confuse
Old 03-23-2010, 07:29 PM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #6

But I use the Reading Recovery level / Pinnell. But sometimes you are the best judge . The levels are only a guide and as PP has said everything is judged on different criteria. Suggestion when labeling your books either color code them or icon code them, It makes it some much easier to put back in place,
readerabbit is offline   Reply With Quote
Lelando
Guest
 
 

Lelando
Guest
 
 
Think?
Old 09-03-2012, 11:05 PM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #7

The problem with education is that we have too many who make decisions on what they "think." Research shows that ATOS is ever bit as accurate as Lexile. Scholastic is not researched based. When there is valid research, our decisions should follow. As teachers, we make so many decisions during any day that we sometimes start to feel like we are the experts on everything (ask your spouse).

Lord, grant me the strength to dismiss comfortable things, the courage to accept knowledge based on research, and the wisdom to know the difference.
  Reply With Quote
saemajelbr
Guest
 
 

saemajelbr
Guest
 
 

Old 09-26-2012, 05:51 AM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #8

Amen!!!!!!!!!
  Reply With Quote
Kimi556
Guest
 
 

Kimi556
Guest
 
 
Let children be children
Old 01-04-2013, 03:01 PM
 
Clip to ScrapBook #9

At the end of the day as long as (OUR) children are progressing at a normal level that's what I'm looking for! Not the "my kid " is smartest ,fastest, strongest or whatever other label parents want to put strain on thier child for! Your kid may be an actor one day! , or manager, mailman, doctor, pilot, or seaman! LET OUR CHILDREN BE KIDS FOR AS LONG AS THEY CAN! I don't care that anyone's child was potty trained at one!<lol> whatever...you win.".your child was potty trained first!
  Reply With Quote

Join the conversation! Post as a guest or become a member today. New members welcome!

Reply

 

>
Primary Grades (K-2)
Thread Tools



Sign Up FREE | ProTeacher Help | BusyBoard

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:50 AM.

Copyright © 2014 ProTeacher®
For individual use only. Do not copy, reproduce or transmit.
source: www.proteacher.net
8