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Which is better? I know Fry is newer, but I'm finding discrepancies in the first 100 word lists.

How many sight words should a first grader know?

What would you do if you disagreed with the "high frequency" words in your basal series - teach them anyway, or follow more of the dolch/fry lists?
We're supposed to teach - picture, though, through, thought, enough - too tough?
How about - cow, horse, wall, door - as sight words - really????


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I don't think it matters which list you use. The point of learning sight words is so that they know a large majority of the words they read. That way, they are fluent enough to read through and figure out the ones they don't. The words on Dolch and Fry both teach MANY sight words, so you can't go wrong either way. Our basal doesn't have the best words either, so I looked through Dolch and Fry and found some biggies that I thought were missing and added them to my lists. I am still required to cover the basal ones.
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If you go to www.theschoolbell.com there is a dolch kit that is very helpful. It has the dolch words broken down into 11 lists along with testing booklets, recording sheets and activities for learning the words.
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I use Harcourt Trophies and do not like their "high-frequency words." I use them more as vocabulary. This is what I use for sight words: http://www.theschoolbell.com/Links/Dolch/Contents.html

I break the lists down by quarter:

1-2 First quarter
3, 4, 5 Second quarter
6, 7, 8 Third quarter
9, 10, 11 Fourth Quarter
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I use Fry because it's the 'updated' version but I think they are close enough that it doesn't matter too much. Although I think it's easier to find an 'official' Dolch list online than an 'official' Fry.

Everything I can find says the goal for first graders should be the first 100 Frys so I keep that in mind as I work through the year. Having said that, last year, one of my kiddos had NO sight words by the end of the year (still working on letter sounds), and two of my kiddos had over 1000 Fry sight words, so it's a very loose guideline for me.


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We use the sight words from the schoolbell, too. We make two copies of the book; one for school and one for home. I like the way you broke them down for each quarter. Thank you!
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I did notice an overlap, but thought maybe one was better than the other. We used the Dolch one from the school bell last year and expected the kids to know 180/220 from the book. I guess we'll do the same this year!
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I focus on the dolch Kindergarten list first(many students come in not knowing these words) and then add the 1st grade words. Last year I had students who knew all of the dolch words so I started them on Fry phrases.
We also teach weekly words with our Harcourt stories but I treat them more like vocabulary words.
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I too disagreed with some of the high frequency words in our adopted reading series. I use the fry words & teach them in order. The fry list is the top 200 most frequent words found when reading in order of frequency. I too love theschoolbell.com!
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If you want a fun way to have your kids learn sight words, check out Superspeed 100 and Superspeed 1000 at powerteacher.net. I remember reading somewhere (but I can't find it now) that Superspeed uses a combination of Dolch and Fry words in this program. My kids love it and it is free to download the pages for the kids to use. It takes about 3 minutes to do and the kids love it! They also have Superspeed Math.
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I prefer Dolch
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I use the Dolch list. Our first graders are expected to know the first 150 words off the list by the time they go to second. I end up going over 150 words in the year though....but some of those 2nd grade words they should know as well. Carl's Corner is another website with dolch lists and acitvities. If you like Jan Brett, I believe she has some dolch word lists to print off as well on her main website.
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