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3rd-5th grade teachers...How much time do you spend on each subject?
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3rd, 4th, or 5th grade teachers:


I am wondering how much time you spend on:
  • Reading
  • Writing
  • Grammar
  • Spelling
  • Math
  • Science
  • Social Studies
  • Other
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I do NOT like my schedule this year as I feel I am really rushed with everything, but this is what I'm working with this year! (I'm 3rd)

Reading - 20 min whole group, 60 min small groups
Writing - 20 min
Grammar - 20 min
Spelling - 30 min/week (pre/post test), otherwise they study at home or practice during reading center time
Math - 60 min
Science/Social Studies - 45 min total each day (we do 3 weeks of SS, then 3 weeks of Science)
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Reading - 60 minutes daily
Writing - 20 minutes daily
Grammar - 20 minutes daily
Spelling - 20 minutes daily
Math - 60 minutes daily
Science - 40 minutes daily
Social Studies - 25 minutes daily
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We are departmentalized and have 5 subjects. I teah 5th grade. We have state testing for the first five subjects in the list. (writing....not English)

math 45 min
reading 45 min
english/writing 45 min
social studies 45 min
science 45 min
geography/spelling 45 min.
specials 45 min.
lunch 35 min.

Lots of things get short shrift.
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Third grade class
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Two hours for all language arts (30 to 45 for writing /grammar/spelling)

Ninety minutes for math

Thirty minutes for social studies

Forty five minutes for science


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we have 2 hours and 20 minutes devoted to a block that encompasses reading, writing, spelling. grammar. Sometimes they overlap...we'll do grammar/writing at the same time, etc.

Writing 20-25 min.
Grammar 15-20 min
Spelling 15-20 min
Reading - remainder of block
Math - 1 hour 40 minutes
Science/Social Studies - 30 min for those, so usually do SS part of a quarter and Sci. part of a quarter.
Other - 30 minutes of intensive reading instruction called Tiger Time. It's our Tier I, II, and III intensive for specific reading levels.
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I teach third. This doesn't follow our recommended block of time, but it's what works for my schedule.

Reading - 45 minutes whole/small group depending on day
Independent Reading - 20 minutes at a different time

Writing / Grammar - 30-40 minutes depending on the day

Spelling - 20 minutes

Math - 45 minutes

Science / Social Studies - 30-40 minutes depending on day / activity

Other - Enrichment - 50 minutes (This is the time when students are pulled for EC, AIG, Title 1, tutoring, etc.) Depending on the day, I can have anywhere from 6-15 kids left in the room. I sometimes give them extra time to get caught up on things they haven't finished or give them some kind of problem solving activity to do. It seems like a waste of time for the students who are left in the room, but I do like the idea of the others only being pulled during one set time block.
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Reading...90 min
Writing...30 min
Grammar (included with writing)
Spelling (included with reading)
Math...50 min
Science...30 min
Social Studies...30 min
Other...Read aloud...20 min
Other...Enrichment/Remediation...30 min


All times are daily, and I teach 4th.
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In my fourth grade classroom, here's..
Old 11-16-2010, 09:10 PM
 
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our routine.

* Reading 30 min. whole group/ 60 min. small groups
* Writing maybe 10-20 min. per week, if you're talking prompt practice/mini-lesson
* Grammar 30 min.
* Spelling 5 min.
* Math 70 min.
* Science 30 min.
* Social Studies 30 min.
* Other.....once a week: library- 30 computer lab- 30 Char. ed.- 30
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Old 11-17-2010, 02:14 AM
 
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  • Reading - 2 hrs; 1 hour whole group, 1 hour small group
  • Writing - 15 minutes/day
  • Grammar - 15 minutes/day
  • Spelling - 15 minutes teacher directed on Monday/Friday; 15 minutes independently Tues-Thursday during Reading small group time
  • Math - 60 minutes
  • Science - ~20 minutes every other day
  • Social Studies - ~ 20 minutes every other day
  • Other - We have a 30 minute block where everyone in the school is reading silently & independently. That's when we do reading conferences
  • Specials - 30 minutes/day
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Reading - 30 minutes whole group, 60 minutes small groups/daily
Spelling - about 10 min daily within the Reading block
Math - 60 minutes/daily
Writing - 60 minutes/daily (grammar is taught through modeled writing with an occasional extra lesson if needed)
Science/Social Studies - 25 minutes daily (we do a few days of Science and then switch to SS)

BTW- I teach 4th
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:16 AM
 
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Language Arts- 2 hours divided 80 minutes small group, 40 minutes whole group (comprehension, grammar, phonics/spelling, etc.)
Writing- 40 minutes
Math- 60 minutes
Science/Social Studies- 35 miuntes (we rotate social studies/science every 6 weeks)
Other- 30 minutes student support time (Teir I, II, III instruction)
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4th Grade Schedule
Old 11-17-2010, 08:56 AM
 
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  • Reading --60 Minutes Whole Group/30 Minutes Small Group
  • Writing --20 Minutes (4 times a week)
  • Grammar --30 minutes (4 times a week)
  • Spelling --Tied in with the Small Group Reading
  • Math --60 Minutes
  • Science --60 Minutes
  • Social Studies --40 Minutes (1 time a week)
  • Other
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Old 11-17-2010, 01:39 PM
 
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Thanks so much for all the responses! It is giving me something to think about.

Does anyone have three teachers on a team-3rd -5th?
How would you divide up subjects taught in a fair way?

We would like to stay departmentalized, but with 3 teachers....How would we have a workable (fair to all) schedule?

Teacher 1 teaches what and how long?
Teacher 2 teaches what and how long?

Teacher 3 teaches what and how long?
  • Reading
  • Writing
  • Grammar
  • Spelling
  • Math
  • Science
  • Social Studies
Thanks again!!!!
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Old 11-17-2010, 04:23 PM
 
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It is interesting to read about all of the different schedules.

Spelling-15 minutes
Reading-1 hour 15 minutes
Writing-50 minutes
Math-1 hour
SS-30 min
science-30 min
Grammar-20 min

I'd love to have about 20 more minutes for math.


We have a 3 member 3rd grade team. Each block is 1 1/2 hour. One teacher teaches math & science, one teaches writing & social studies, and the other teaches reading and grammar. Personally, I'd rather see the writing and grammar/spelling as 1 block and reading and social studies as a block.
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I taught 3rd grade grammar, writing, and spelling last year in a 1 1/2 block. Although I to love to teach writing, it was SO exhausting teaching 3 classes how to go through all the writing stages. The second teacher taught reading and social studies, and the third teacher taught math and science. I will NEVER volunteer to do that again!

I like the reading much better with the grammar and spelling (even with social studies). Writing, however, should be done with every subject. I think the homeroom teacher should be responsible for keeping up with her/his homeroom class's writing portfolios/samples. The students should be writing in all subjects. Teaching writing to a grade level is way too much for one teacher to teach (a grade level) if it is going to be done well. I found that so many of the 3rd graders needed one-on-one help to write even a complete sentence.
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School Wide Reading
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I love your schedule.....especially your school having 30 minutes of school wide reading time.
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I teach 5th with 5 teachers. Three of us are in a pod and two team teach. We divided up the work in this fashion. All 5 of us teach our own reading/language arts. The pod team each teach 3 classes in their speciality - science, social studies, and math. For the team teachers - one teaches 2 science classes, and one teaches 2 math classes; then they teach social studies as well as reading to their homerooms. Really, we would love to have 2 pods, but we were one teacher short. Maybe next year.
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Writing Time
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I wish we had more writing time. I teach 4th grade, too.

Reading, grammar, spelling, and writing (rubrics/portfolios, etc...) are all included in my 1 1/2 hour block. I teach it three times, and I am drowning in papers (prewriting, rough drafts, etc...)!
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How much time do you have for reading and language arts?
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I am so envious of everyone!

Here is my exact schedule:
80 minutes total teaching time.....I need ideas!!!!
Reading (independent or aloud)-20 minutes
Reading Skills Practice-20 minutes
Vocabulary-10 Minutes
Grammar-15 minutes
Writing and Spelling-15 minutes

Other two teachers teach....
Math-80 minutes
social studies and science-80 minutes
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It is unfair that you have to do the Reading and the Language Arts in 80 minutes.
I have 90 minutes for Reading and another 60 minutes for Writing/Language Arts. I couldn't even imagine trying to figure that all into 80 minutes. You will not be meeting those students needs! It is impossible to do. If you each have 80 minute blocks to teach, perhaps a different division of subjects are in order. In my opinion, that 3rd teacher (the SS & Science) is getting off too easy! There is no need for 80 minutes of SS & Science everyday!
#1 Reading & Social Studies (or Science)
#2 Math
#3 Writing & Science (or social Studies

Also, if you have 3-80 minute blocks, what do you do for the 2 hours of school? I am assuming 30 minutes for lunch and 30 minutes for a special (PE, Music, Art etc) per day. But there is still an hour unaccounted for.
I think your team needs to revisit the schedule and planning.
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I think that everyone should do their own spelling and 20 min. of independent reading each day. These take little to no planning and could easily be done in a homeroom.

I don't know what your curriculum calls for as far as vocabulary, but I would meet as a team and look at the vocabulary. My guess is that a lot of it (and probably a lot of word parts) could be integrated into science and social studies.

I would also think about taking one social studies/science unit a quarter and making it cross-curricular. (It might take a couple years to build up to that many.) There could be a writing project that goes with it. All three of you would develop a rubric beforehand and do collaborative grading. (Each grade a sample of papers and compare how you scored them on the rubric to be sure you're in agreement; then take a stack and grade them. Meet once more before entering grades in the grade book so you can ask each other about any you were iffy on.)

Another possibility is to have everyone do math, one do language arts/writing, one do reading, and one do social studies/science. This might mean shorter periods for when you switch, but the social studies/science person could alternate doing a social unit and then a science unit.

Also, as far as writing in every subject, there is research to back this up. If you look up 90-90-90 schools, you will find that one feature most successful schools have is a common writing rubric that is used in any subject. Of course, you could give them the rubric and they might not actually use it, but if you could get them to agree to collaborative scoring with the rubrics on a writing piece (maybe 1 a month), they might HAVE to go along with you.

Good luck!
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I like this idea: Another possibility is to have everyone do math, one do language arts/writing, one do reading, and one do social studies/science. This might mean shorter periods for when you switch, but the social studies/science person could alternate doing a social unit and then a science unit.

However, I would rather have everyone teach arts/writing, one do math, one do reading, and one do social studies/science. Would that work?
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Here is our schedule:

Students have school for 8:15-2:15. Teachers have school 7:30-4:00
Most students arrive at 8. Counted tardy at 8:05 (announcements begin)
Announcements over at 8:15-8:20
Change classes for 1st block 8:15/20-9:40 (80 minutes)
5 minutes change classes and bathroom
2nd block-9:45-11:05 (80 minutes)
5 minutes change classes, bathroom, and wash up for lunch
3rd block-11:10-11:35 (25 minutes)
Lunch 11:40-12:10
Recess 12:10-12:25
5 minutes Water
Specials (PE/Teach/Media/Art/Guidance)-45 minutes12:30-1:15
5 minutes Water
3rd block continues 1:20-2:15 (55 minutes)
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