[klo3463]

Does anyone use Love and Logic in their classroom management? I have a rough group coming up this year and would like to try it out. Does anyone have any hints in order to be successful with it? Thanks for your help.

[RJean]

I discovered love and logic when I student taught (it was used at the school as a school-wide plan) I did more reading and thought it was a great fit for me. I have just finished subbing 1.5 years (I will start as full time teacher this year!!!) and learned that the days that I gave choices and held the students responsible for their actions (according to their choices) were the best days. The days that I forgot ... or was having a bad day myself and didn't give the kids ownership were the days that were more difficult. Since I just subbed I could pretty much only give small choices (want the lights on or off? want to have your read aloud before or after recess...) so I am looking forward to creating a love and logic classroom this year.

The books I loved were "Teaching with Love and Logic" (Jim Faye) ... i think that is the basic one... and "Creating Classrooms where teachers love to teach and students love to learn" by Bob Sornson.

Also, when I used "enforceable statements" instead of commands I got a much better response.... example: instead of "You need to be quiet before I will let you go to recess" use "I will take the class to recess when it is quiet" (yeah they wanted to go to recess anyways… but this was just an example… there are MUCH better examples in the books)

Good Luck!

[Teach'n'Learn]

I tried it for the first time with a pretty rough group last year. The days that I used it went better than other days. The biggest thing to remember is that "creatures under stress revert to prior learning." Works for humans as well as any other thinking being. So if you're used to being a dictator, you're going to have a tendency to revert back to that when it's a really rough day, for example. Remembering that and being concious about using L&L will help you survive. Also remember that it takes time for the really rough ones to buy in completely, so don't expect it to work immediately. And "noticing" works!.

I didn't remember any of those things, and it would have been so much better for me if I had!

[mshelbyk]

have you checked out their site? they have some great resources...especially the "turn your words into gold" handout!

~Michelle

Our district uses love and logic and I think it is great. When I first took the class, I remember thinking how much the ideas fit into my own teaching style and personality. I was excited to have a program that worked for me.

PS My favorite concept is delayed consequences. I love telling a kid that we will deal with their behavior later and, "try not to worry about it."