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Betsy DeVos Selected for Education Secretary
Old 11-23-2016, 11:18 AM
 
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"President-elect Donald Trump on Wednesday said he intends to appoint West Michigan GOP mega donor and philanthropist Betsy DeVos to be his education secretary, putting an ardent supporter of school choice in charge of the nation’s education policy..."
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It's like an oil executive being in charge of solar energy
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Oh dee,
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that is great! May I borrow that?
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Don't make this political
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I want this to get out there and more people will see this in the Lounge.
If you so choose, please post this on your Social Media to get the word out about this petition.

Please sign the petition.

http://networkforpubliceducation.org...y-of-education
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Thank you for this. She will be a nightmare for public education.


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Retired now, but
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I signed it.
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What if a family wants their child to go to a school where scripture memory is taught and they cannot afford it? Should they be denied that type of education?
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Public funds
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Should never be used to teach religion. Nor should religious schools ever be subsidized by taxpayers who may or may NOT agree with the religious dogma that is taught in them.

Many thanks to the OP who posted the petition link. DeVos is utterly unqualified to be education secretary of anything, let alone our country!
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My post got moved to Teacher News and Opinions- Who goes there? I never do...PLEASE GO THERE and get the petition out about our new Secretary.
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I'm upset about this too. Say hello to more vouchers and charter schools.


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signed petition, retweeted and facebook.
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No, they shouldn't be denied, but taxpayers shouldn't pay for it. If a private school education is important to a parent, then they need to plan for it. Can't afford a religious school? Take them to church, Sunday school, and teach them the bible at home.
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This is exactly what American was promised during the campaign. No surprises here. None at all. This is what American wanted.

I did send the letters and also wrote individual letters to my Senators.

Teachers....HOHICA Public education will never be the same.

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Signed, and sent to several friends still teaching.
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What if a family wants their child to go to a school where scripture memory is taught and they cannot afford it? Should they be denied that type of education?
why should I have to pay for it?
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Old 11-25-2016, 06:43 PM
 
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Thanks for posting this. I don't have a problem with Christian schools, I went to them for grades 4-12. But I do have a problem when money is taken from public education to pay for them.
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I don't want money taken from
Old 11-25-2016, 07:10 PM
 
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public schools and given to parochial either, but for a different reason. I don't want kids coming if they don't believe in the religion we teach. When the government gets involved they always take over. No, I don't want the government to pay for school choice.
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I saw that on FB today, signed and shared! So glad you posted it here too!

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Your comment is so correct!
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Thank you for sharing this. I signed it. Public schools are already underfunded and now we look at the prospect of funds being further divided? How about some support from above and not for the companies making a killing on test writing and the materials to use to teach so that our kids can pass those tests? I've heard for years about how "we are training students for jobs that don't yet exist." No one has EVER had a crystal ball in the history of the world and we have NEVER known what jobs would exist in the future! I could never have predicted the technology we have today. We need to keep our focus on teaching kids to problem solve, think critically, work together, communicate effectively and all of the other skills that good teachers have always focused on.
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So do you want John King removed too?
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According to USA Today
Appearing at the National Press Club, King said the USA is “fortunate, I think, as a country, to have some high-performing charters that are doing a great job providing great opportunities to students — charters that are helping students not only perform at higher levels academically, but go on to college at much higher rates” than students at similar neighborhood public schools. “That’s good. We should have more schools like that, and I think any arbitrary cap on that growth of high-performing charters is a mistake.”
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Old 11-26-2016, 11:25 AM
 
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I posted on facebook about her and had my very first public facebook 'discussion' with an opinionated person who has no experience in education.

I will not stand by silently.
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I don't support him either. He was a nightmare for NY teachers. He was on his way out in NY because the parents couldn't stand him. Then he was picked to be Secretary of Education. I can't even fathom how that happened.

I definitely won't support DeVos either. It should be a requirement to have a degree in education with years of teaching experience to be named Sec of Ed.
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I would want to know what those charters are doing and why can those charters not share the information with all schools.

But then again, if I could pick and choose my students, if could "coach" parents whose students aren't doing well in my school to go back to the public school, if I did not have to have special education students who need the most support and help, then I am sure my school would do amazingly.

Now I know that not every charter school does those things, but it happens, and it happens more often then supporters of charter care to admit.
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this seems reasonable..
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What if a family wants their child to go to a school where scripture memory is taught and they cannot afford it? Should they be denied that type of education

because we always assume that it will only be the religions that are mainstream and already have had public support. When we realize that the government can not promote one religion because it is the majority over others this suddenly seems like a really BAD idea.
So, most people envision Christian private schools getting funds, then Scientology pops up for funds and maybe School of Satan, Pagan school and the KKK school for neonazies. Not so pretty is it?

Americans are provided with Freedom of Religion meaning the government can not and should not support the teaching of religion to the citizens. I really don't know of too many Americans who can not easily on their own access the scriptures of every religion especially the Christian religion.
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Charter schools financing Turkish revolution
Old 11-30-2016, 08:25 PM
 
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Gulen oversees more than 150 charter schools in the US and has been funneling profits to promote a revolution in Turkey. Many of his adherents have been fired and arrested in Turkey since the failed coup attempt a few months ago.

No US Public education funds for foreign intervention. Leave that to the CIA budget.

http://www.theatlantic.com/education...cleric/375923/

His local charter requires $160 per student per semester in fees over and above state ADA funding. Fees are supposedly illegal to require in my state. Rather eliminates any students in poverty from attending. Family income highly correlates with test scores.
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Your message was spot on. I've worked at a great charter school for 16 years. Our kids score much higher across the board in all areas. Our scores are much higher than the local school district and higher than state levels here in Arizona. Many of our graduates go on to college. I don't see what the big deal is about charter schools if they are not for profit schools. I am for school choice/vouchers. I'm OK with paying for Christian schools, though I know many aren't OK with it. What I am not OK with is paying for illegals schooling. It takes away from American kids.
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I don't see what the big deal is about charter schools if they are not for profit schools.
But so many of them are for profit schools, which means they are willing to cut costs to improve profits. I do not think our tax dollars should benefit some corporation (any more than they already do).

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I'm OK with paying for Christian schools, though I know many aren't OK with it. What I am not OK with is paying for illegals schooling. It takes away from American kids.
This is so offensive to me. First off, they are CHILDREN, no illegals. Second, they had no choice in coming here (their parents did). Third, what is really going to "take away" from American kids is the gutting of public schools by for profit charters.
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I am appalled by the thought of taking tax payer's money and funneling it to religious education. Of course middle America would not be ok with tax money going to a muslim run school. Charters take public money and are not accountable to anyone for student outcomes. The charter scheme is a segregation scheme . Public schooling does really well with the clients and the parents they get. No public school can reject a student. Any tax money taken from a public school does harm to the students left at that public school;most of whom have problems charter schools will not deal with. Logic and clear thinking are gone and in its place is segregation.
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The answer to your question is that charter school funds pulled from public education deplete school funds which are paid by taxpayers and reduce spending for the children in public schools. Public schools serve every child not just select ones. Many charter schools are not regulated, have unqualified teachers and often do not monitor progress. The one which used to be in our county was closed for those very reasons. They didn't even keep attendance and had no clue who was at school. Financials were a mess and there was no or little documentation of student work or grades. I realize not every charter school is like this. But the majority of charter schools within an hour range of where I live are very selective on students they choose to accept. That makes it a private school not a public one that accepts anyone and should not be supported by taxpayer dollars.
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