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Old 11-04-2017, 07:34 PM
 
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Centers/Stations for ELA

I need suggestions for grouping students into small groups for stations/centers.

What is the most effective way of grouping this many students?. I have 3 groups (2 have 31 and one group is 30).

I feel like I spend more time with discipline than actual teaching.

I need ideas on how to group.
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I was going to suggest group kids by those who have hormones and attitudes already and those who are still likable, but that doesn’t seem helpful.

Why 3 groups? Is break them into more groups-say 4-5 groups so you have fewer kids in each group. I’d do word work, read to self, math (they need the review), read with someone, work on writing and meet with teacher. The fewer kids in a group, the fewer problems.
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Wow, that's a lot of students. I like to have two sets of groupings, one is by ability (homogeneous) and one I like to mix by ability. Of coarse the trump card is "whom can not be with whom" due to behavior. I have a laminated board with the names on it by groupings that I can move around but in your case I would set the two sets of groups and name them so when kids entered or started groups you can say "we are going with the red system or whatever you want to call it". I don't like groups that are bigger than 6 students so that's still 5 centers for you to set. I might set up 4 in the room and have one back at your seat for the fifth. Good Luck
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I think 5 or six groups would be good. How long is your ELA block?

* work with the teacher
* reading response
* read to self
* skill and drill on the computer
* word work
* spelling
* work on a longer writing piece
* cooperative game or project

If you had six groups, you could meet with 3 groups each day for guided reading. I usually had several centers that were "must do's" and several that were "can do's" . For instance, everyone had to do spelling, but there was a choice of spelling activities.
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Name them salt or pepper and you have two groups.

Name them the primary colors red, blue and yellow and you have three groups.

Name them north, south, east and west and you have four groups.

Name them for the great lakes (HOMES) Huron, Ontario, Michigan, Erie and Superior and you have five groups.

It will take them a while to remember all their groups so keep a list handy or tape their designations to their desks. Once they know their groups it is so easy to group them quickly. Just decide ahead of time which students can not be together.

Also always have an activity for a student who can't work cooperatively. They are very social creatures so it usually only takes an independent activity a time or two and they get their act together to work with their group the next time. Just knowing that you will give them an independent activity is motivating to be cooperative.


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3 groups because we have 3 teachers and 90+ kids.

HORMONES are kicking in!!!

I teach all ELA (reading, grammar, writing, spelling, vocabulary, handwriting) in 90 minute blocks to the each of the groups.
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Thanks so much! Yes, behavior is the biggest deal of all! It is hard for me to have one on one conferences with so many students. I have tried 6 centers where they rotate to 2 of them each day. Honestly, this is a year where I feel that WHOLE group works BEST! It is next to impossible to watch over this many students in centers.
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I have 90 minutes

I teach all ELA (reading, grammar, writing, spelling, vocabulary, handwriting) in 90 minute blocks to 3 different groups.

I have been trying 6 groups because of the behavior issues in this grade level.

These are the centers I have going on:
1. Work with the teacher (writing on paired tests-finding text evidence for essays)
2. Reading Skill-Google Classroom (stories and reading responses)
3. AR-read to self
4. Language Arts Skill-Verbs (games/task cards)
5. Vocabulary-word work (Greek and Latin roots in Google Classroom)
6. Review-Spiral Review on past skills

Seemed like a great plan to me, but with so many kids....I almost need to be a full time facilitator and not be in a center; however, I have students who need my help with the most basic writing skills.

Do you have an example to "see" of your centers? Is your time the same?

Thanks for your help!

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I have sort of been doing this. You can see my response below.

Maybe I will just keep trying and come up with an independent activity that students will hate for those students who cannot work cooperatively! Thanks!!!
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I teach fourth grade and we do stations. It took several weeks at the start of the year to teach each station. Have you done that? Last year I tried to do stations without taking the time to teach it and have them all practice at the same time .I ended up spending more time putting out fires than working with kids. This year is going much better. I have groups of 5-6 kids. If they need a partner, I tell them to work with the person whose name is next to theirs. That seems to be working.


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