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Would you give credit?
Old 02-20-2018, 10:22 AM
 
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I gave a spelling test.
The word is supposed to be powerful. I read this as "bowerful". Yes, I understand what he meant, but I marked it wrong because that's NOT a "p". Am I being too harsh? This is 4th grade (and this is probably one of the smartest student in the whole grade).


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I'd mark it wrong. That looks like a b. I've never seen a p written even close to that.
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Old 02-20-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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Wrong. It's a b.
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Mark it wrong.

Mistakes happen, even by the smartest kid in the class. He either misheard what you said or had a oversight when writing (unless you see this happening in other work and it is still an issue).
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Agree. Mark it wrong. It's a spelling test where accurate spelling is essential. This shows the importance of double checking one's work before submitting.


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I would mark the word wrong as well. It's not harsh, it's a spelling test. Accurate letter formation is essential when spelling words correctly.

Just curious...did this student have any other words wrong? The reason I'm asking is because in the grand scheme of grading this test, one misspelled word is probably not going to affect the child's grade much...yet, it still teaches a life-skill about the value of double-checking work.
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Of course it's wrong! Powerful is not spelled b-o-w-e-r-f-u-l.

As a frame of reference, in my 4th grade classroom, cursive is required. On vocabulary tests, which count as spelling tests, if the cursive letter is not formed correctly, I count it wrong. In cursive, a lowercase m has three humps. Do I know what they mean if they only use two humps? Of course, but that makes it a lowercase n and that's not how you spell the word.

It usually only takes once for a student to figure out that they need to use their best handwriting.
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does he know how to write
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If his printing of "b" and "p" in question I would give him a little oral test before awarding him something. If he can tell you orally that "powerful" is spelled as "p-o-w-e-...." then I would award it and then ask him how to write "p" vs. "b". Otherwise, it's wrong.
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Old 02-20-2018, 03:43 PM
 
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Wrong. Maybe this will motivate him to write his letters correctly.
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Messy writing
Old 02-20-2018, 03:46 PM
 
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I tell my students that if I can't read it, it's wrong.


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It's wrong, so it's should be marked wrong.

I teach fourth, and I'm so mean that after multiple warnings, I start marking them wrong if they capitalize the word and it shouldn't be, REGARDLESS if it's spelled right. I have too many kids coming to me that randomly capitalize words, and it's the only way I've found to break them of the habit.
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Old 02-20-2018, 04:53 PM
 
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If it was my kid with horrible handwriting I would hope it would be marked wrong.
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I’d have marked that wrong over here in second grade.
I allow for letter reversals through second quarter, but not obviously incorrect spellings/letters.
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Count it wrong!! Did you know what he meant? Absolutely, but it is a SPELLING test. If it was a short answer quiz, I probably wouldn't count this wrong, but it is a SPELLING test.

Mrs. Beige - YES! I also teach 4th and those misformed cursive letters are counted as spelling errors.
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:10 PM
 
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In standardized tests, if the letter written can be mistaken for another letter, it's wrong. Spelling tests should have the same standard. I would read that as bowerful, and the smartest student in the grade should know it's not a word. Better he gets this feedback now rather than while in high school and the grades count towards college applications.
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I am harsh
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I teach 2nd and I would count that wrong. Here's one for you....spelling word was "pitch" but 2nd grader wrote a b instead of a p.
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Old 02-21-2018, 07:29 AM
 
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I would mark it wrong. Part of spelling is forming letters correctly so you can read it, isn't it?
Another q: is that how he would write a b? Is it possible he just didn't bring down the line enough for it to be a P?
Either way, I'd still mark it wrong, but just wondering if that's how he writes a b
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Old 02-21-2018, 05:20 PM
 
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spelling test not writing test

Ask him to spell it aloud. If he can, I would give credit. Personally, I want to know if you can spell the word not if you can write the word.

I'm not saying that correct spelling isn't important for writing but times have changed and tools exist that make some of what once was very important, a little less so. IMO
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Old 02-22-2018, 12:28 PM
 
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I would count it wrong.
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Another vote
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It's wrong. Even in Australia.
Grade 4? Looks like his handwriting care factor is between 0 and 4.
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Old 03-18-2018, 06:42 AM
 
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I counted them wrong in 1st grade. Not that we would have had that as a spelling word.

Wrong is wrong. Right is right. Wrong can't be right, can it?
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Old 03-18-2018, 07:35 AM
 
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csteacher:
A spelling test IS a writing test. Writing is the only time spelling matters. And when I taught 4th grade, I made sure my students understood that. (Unless you’re a parent trying to get a message to someone without the little one knowing what you’re saying.)
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