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Old 12-16-2021, 08:07 AM
 
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I did it. I put my resignation in for the next school year. I know I said I was going to resign, but originally I wasn't going to notify admin or my dep until March. The last straw came with this last test. Every year, our grade level knows that one team gets the worse students. I have to put in double the work just to align my scores with my peer teacher. This time, I had it. I had at least SIX students who circled whatever and turned their test in, which brought my scores down. I tutored for a week and a half, contacted parents about the test, and gave three different reviews. My peer gave one lousy review, sat at the desk, and did no tutoring. Actually, I tutored a student of my peers' and she mastered the test. It was when my peer was bragging about scores, that I decided to resign right then and there. I am sick of having a team that has a rough year, while another team gets an easy breezy year. It's ridiculous and tiring.


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Old 12-16-2021, 09:08 AM
 
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Have you spoken to admin about leveling the classes? Is there a reason this happens?
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It has been brought up
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It has been brought up in the past and they assure us that it is a random system situation. Also, right before schedules, the counselor likes to post on her personal FB how teachers should not complain about schedules because God assigned us these kids lol So yes, we have brought it up but they assure us it is fair and the teachers complaining can't handle the students.
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Old 12-16-2021, 02:50 PM
 
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I am glad you are taking care of yourself and put in your resignation now. It doesn't sound fair and I know that in our school district they like to say its fair but teachers know what goes on behind our backs and it isn't fair.
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This used to happen in my old district. Chronic discipline cases and other high-needs and high-maintenance students were always being funneled into the same few teachers’ classes. Most guidance counselors denied they were doing this, but one admitted it happens all the time.

I once got an admin to acknowledge there was a lot of ‘social engineering’ going on with timetabling such that a few teachers were always bearing a much heavier load than others. The admin tried to rationalize the practice by saying, “I know it seems unfair, but it’s really a compliment. Some teachers just have the ‘knack’ of connecting with at-risk students.” Yeah, sure. And in many cases the ‘knack’ is just back-breaking work and a tendency not to complain. The admin went on: “Ask yourself… if the struggling student were your child, wouldn’t you want the BEST possible teacher for them?” Yeah, whatever. Burn out good teachers just to reduce the amount of drama and the number of referrals you have to deal with. Rationalizing bad policy makes me nuts.

I hope this move works out for you!! Sorry you’ve had to deal with this.



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Old 12-17-2021, 04:53 AM
 
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OP good for you for resigning! I kinda hope you went out guns-ablazing and articulating why it happened but I likely wouldn't have had the courage.
I did have one admin who admitted she did it AND understood. She'd be the type to say, Oh, yes, Cruxian has lower test scores this year because she has the low class; have you noticed that the reading specialist only pulls students from her room? That's because the other teacher on her team is out a lot with cancer and the other one is doing a split grade class. I hated her otherwise but appreciated her knowledge of students, her willingness to admit why it was done and her reasoning behind it (it didn't always happen to the same teacher each year).
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To clarify
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To clarify, I am returning after Christmas, because I can't afford to leave mid year, but I made it clear to admin and my dep that I will not be returning the following year. I wish I went out "guns-ablazing" but I just said that I was resigning. This in itself is hurtful to the campus because we have high turnover every year and my team has already said that none of them are coming back. I am hard to replace because I am certified in multiple areas. I don't want to give too much specifics, but I can be moved around and do more than other teachers because of my certifications and years teaching. So, my dep is begging me to stay, but admin hasn't said much. Maybe they saw it coming? Those who do the schedules swear up and down that it is all random, but a couple of us wonder if what's causing this is that they schedule the other team first and we are given whatever students are left. Counselor did mention a couple of times that scheduling conflicts is what places students. As stereotypical as it sounds, busy kids tend to be the better students, so if they schedule all the kids who are in Ag, band, athletics, and other classes that are taught during specific times throughout the day to the other team first, it would explain why my team is left with behavior problems and lower students. But, when I confided to some trusted people about why I am leaving, they wondered too if it is favoritism. Two of the counselor's favorite teachers are on the other team, and my peer hasn't gotten a problem child in FOUR years and has the higher honors students. I have three students who should not be in honors, but unless a parent agrees, we cannot kick a kid out and place them in a regular class. What annoys me more is that our admin places everyone in positions of their niches. I have several higher level degrees and it is known that my forte is honors students. I can take an honors class and ensure that they master. But, I am always given the lower honors kids, and no one has utilized that ability of mine. But as Angelo said, because I am low maintenance and do not complain, I am the last teacher they try to keep happy.
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Old 12-17-2021, 09:00 AM
 
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This is from an elementary school POV...

Yeah, we've complained amongst ourselves about being punished when you can handle behavior by getting more of the challenging students. Teachers with weak discipline get rewarded with classes without challenging students (flip side of the coin). It's not fair.

We make up the classes in grade level teams since we know the kids best. (I find it odd that counselors make up classes since they don't know most of the kids. Isn't that true in middle and high school as well?) So we diligently spread out children with behavior issues, IEP, special groups/pullouts, academic levels, gender, kids who should be separated, etc. But we noticed that kids were switched during the summer break. So we made a copy of the classes we built and compared them to classes in the fall. Yep, we had proof year to year. No, we didn't do anything with the proof. However, we stopped agonizing over making up the classes. But we did speak up if our classes were unbalanced. And we didn't give a pass to the teachers with weak discipline. Otherwise, the stronger teachers get burned out and resentful.

Another issue is parent requests. We've had principals go both ways. One principal's standard response was, All of the teachers at our school are high caliber and your child will do great in any class.

Congratulations to you, IcyPeppermint! I'm so glad you were able to resign and I hope the rest of the year will allow you to enjoy the "lasts" of your teaching career...last conferences, duty, report cards, etc. Enjoy the kids and hang onto those notes and pictures students give you, if you're the sentimental type.

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There was one year where an English department colleague and I agreed to switch classes. She had been assigned AP and didn’t really want it that year, and I had been assigned a mixed-level, elective writing class (often used as a dumping ground for high-needs students needing something to round out their timetable). The colleague was trained to teach AP but had no experience and too much going on in her life to learn the ropes with AP so asked me to switch. Department Chair agreed. Principal said fine and signed off.

The Chair of the counseling department sidled up to me the week before the new term.

Counselor: I’m not sure if you noticed there were some additions to your class.
Me: No, I didn’t. Which class?
Counselor: 5th period Writing.
Me: Oh… that’s not me.
Counselor: What do you mean it’s not you?
Me: I’m doing AP. Sarah’s taking the Writing class.
Counselor: What? Since when?
Me: Since we agreed to switch last week.
Counselor: Who approved this? Admin?
Me: Yes, admin signed off. Why? What’s up?
Counselor: Ugghhhhh! I really wish Admin would talk to us before agreeing to these things!
Me: Sorry, but why on earth would they need to talk to you? It’s a one for one switch.
Counselor: Ugghhhh. This is bad! I have to speak to the principal!
*trots off to the office without a goodbye*

Later…

Counselor: Sorry to do this to you, but I wanted to give you a heads up that Admin may want to see you and Sarah.
Me: About what?
Counselor: We will likely need to reverse the switch you arranged.
Me: Pardon me? And who is ‘we’?
Counselor: Listen, I know you had it all worked out, but we had arranged to put Johnny Smith (difficult kid) in mixed Writing, and we sold it to him and his parents on the basis that you’d be teaching it.
Me: You’re not supposed to timetable based on teacher preference.
Counselor: Special case. Long story.
Me: Well, Johnny’s just going to have to live with Sarah.
Counselor: No way. Johnny and Sarah would be like oil and water. That would be a disaster.
Me: Then you’re going to have to move Johnny.
Counselor: I don’t think we can. It took me over an hour to make this timetable work and Johnny’s mom only signed off because oh the lineup of teachers.
Me: Since when do parents ‘sign off’ on the timetable?
Counselor: Like I said… long story… Johnny is a very complicated student.
Me: Well, I’m not agreeing to switch my timetable just to accommodate one student’s preference. We’ve already started planning.
Counselor: Listen… I know it seems unfair to ask you to change your plans, but this is a really critical time in Johnny’s life. Having the right combination of teachers could mean the difference between graduating or not for him.
Me: I’ve already taught Johnny twice.
Counselor: That’s the point. You’re one of the few teachers he seems to have connected with.

The P asked us if we were open to switching back and we said no, and I expressed disapproval that they were even entertaining letting guidance dictate the terms of a teacher switch. The P said, “Okay, okay…” with hands up in surrender and let the matter drop. But honestly… don’t you wonder who’s really driving the bus sometimes?
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Old 12-18-2021, 04:54 AM
 
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KetchupChips you must work with me! We've had the same thing happen. I'm getting "gifted" a new student when we come back because.......my room is more structured and that's what this new one needs Happy New Year to Me!


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You have my sympathy!!
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Old 12-18-2021, 11:30 AM
 
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Good for you! I understand what you are going through.
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Good for you, I hope you find your joy.
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Good for you!!! I think many admins are forgetting that they need us way more then we need them. If more of us stood up for ourselves life would be better for all.
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Good for you. I hope you get to do an exit interview and lay out exactly why you are leaving.
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